Front door quote

thebaldwindowfitter

Furts wrote: »

"When getting work done it is reasonable to request the paving be lifted. It is also reasonable for the installers to offer to do this. If the installers do not have competence they could get someone to do it. An analogy would be a car getting repaired at a dealer. It is reasonable to expect the repairs to be done to the latest technical updates."

Installers work to Fensa /certass building regs guidlines nowhere in those guidlines does it state that paving should be raised to meet the door for what is disabled access .did the customer ask for this in any case . Your analogy of the car repairs makes no comparison many technical updates as well you know would be safety issues .

"Of course there is a reason for everything. We both know that. The trickle vent looks poor, and there should be proper ventilation for a kitchen. A trickle vent does not meet Buildings Regulations for this purpose. Hence it is correct to say it looks odd."

If the door had a trickle vent in before as an installer then this should be fitted in the new door .i was not saying that this trickle vent is adequate ventilation only extra ,but there again surely this would of been dealt with by the house builder



"An outward opening door is normally fitted to save internal space. I have a number on my home for this purpose. The obvious drawback, is hitting people when the door is opened. Here the installers should point this out to the customer."

And you know that they didnt ?

"Of course margins can vary inside, but a typical scenario with countless doors and windows is they are not measured correctly. Add ons get fitted, silicone beads cover a multitude of variations, and cover strips likewise."

All installations should be taken as individual instead of your usual diatribe of tarring all installers with the same brush

"All in I stand by my observation. That is I have not seen the doors, but on the basis of photos they raise questions worthy of a look. No different to you doing a quality control check on any job you undertake - doing a thorough sign off before handing the job over to the customer.

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It is the easiest thing in the world to pick fault in others work you for one seem very good and i am sure i could do the same with anything you did or had fitted that is if you have ever actually done any manual labour .

Furts

thebaldwindowfitter wrote: »

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It is the easiest thing in the world to pick fault in others work you for one seem very good and i am sure i could do the same with anything you did or had fitted that is if you have ever actually done any manual labour .

For many years my local council have been issuing written guide sheets to consumers about access, paths, ramps when getting any form of building work done. This runs counter to any reasoning you are putting in your answer.

I have done, and continue to do, plenty of manual labour. Nothing in life is perfect but we all strive to do a decent job - don't we?

thebaldwindowfitter

Furts wrote: »

For many years my local council have been issuing written guide sheets to consumers about access, paths, ramps when getting any form of building work done. This runs counter to any reasoning you are putting in your answer.

I have done, and continue to do, plenty of manual labour. Nothing in life is perfect but we all strive to do a decent job - don't we?

building work yes ie extensions porches and the like the council does not send out such advice for simply changing doors so please dont try to defend your posts with such nonsense . You made comments that the installers should have raised the path for disabled access .Notice you havent carried on with the trickle vent have you realized with this you have come to once again your own assumption without knowing the reason for it being in the frame section also being in the add on profile keeps the energy rating of the door set . You also dont mention the other brands of composite door maybe in your search for a door you had overlooked the fact that rockdoor solidoor and a few others are the only ones who dont use cheap slabs Nan-ya imported from of all places china

Furts

thebaldwindowfitter wrote: »

building work yes ie extensions porches and the like the council does not send out such advice for simply changing doors so please dont try to defend your posts with such nonsense . You made comments that the installers should have raised the path for disabled access .Notice you havent carried on with the trickle vent have you realized with this you have come to once again your own assumption without knowing the reason for it being in the frame section also being in the add on profile keeps the energy rating of the door set . You also dont mention the other brands of composite door maybe in your search for a door you had overlooked the fact that rockdoor solidoor and a few others are the only ones who dont use cheap slabs Nan-ya imported from of all places china

The Forum rules suggest not feeding trolls.

Dan-Dan

come on guys , you both know your onions , i know plenty of us appreciate both your inputs on various subjects

Cheers!

thebaldwindowfitter

Furts wrote: »

The Forum rules suggest not feeding trolls.

Not a troll just pointing out once again your ignorant i am right attitude do you honestly think that the poster of the pictures put them up to be ridiculed by you sorry but i dont think so you have also called this persons intelligence by pointing out the items they were probally happy with how good are you :money::T:T:T

simply calling me a troll doesnt give your point any justice im afraid please report my posts if you feel so strongly your as ive said have ridiculed something which im sure the poster didnt ask for :mad:

thebaldwindowfitter

Dan-Dan wrote: »

come on guys , you both know your onions , i know plenty of us appreciate both your inputs on various subjects

Cheers!

I agree i just fail to see unless asked for an opinion people like Furts should ridicule what could somebodies pride and joy as well as there inteligence

greenface

Furts wrote: »

The logical answer is unhappy by a country mile. Whilst none of us can open and shut the doors, or check the fitting, one can observe the following:

Front door - large head suggesting measured then made incorrectly.

Back door - unequal sides, so ditto.

Stable door - handle and height against the ethos of Lifetime Homes and Buildings Regulations.

Then aesthetics - why does the drip not match for colour or finish?

All this is just by a cursory glance at the photos. In fairness OP might think the job is delightful, but if so I am puzzled why they should choose to post pictures.

75% rubbish and 25% assumption . ive recently fitted a door and reduced the head by 3 inches to avoid hitting the light inside It may have a dropped head inside . Ramp or step isn't installers job unless agreed it is. handle on stable is there and always there . unequal sides could suit internal or have unequal side inside . Maybe a hinge issue . your truly guessing a few things here and pulling apart thing you know little of unless without seeing and knowing more .

greenface

Oh didn't see page 2 . edit to 80%.

Furts

greenface wrote: »

Oh didn't see page 2 . edit to 80%.

We will have to agree to disagree here. I accept the score is 2 versus me, but I stand by my comments.

My comments are made simply by observing photos. I have made it clear I have not been and inspected the fitting, but neither have you or any other posters.

The photos raise many questions, all worthy of a closer look.

The issue also raises questions about the industry and the concept of quality control, and the issue of self certification. But that is a wider issue and could be debated for a while.