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  • robatwork
    robatwork Posts: 7,268 Forumite
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    You fail to say if you are happy or otherwise with the doors, or the company that fitted them.
  • Furts
    Furts Posts: 4,474 Forumite
    robatwork wrote: »
    You fail to say if you are happy or otherwise with the doors, or the company that fitted them.

    The logical answer is unhappy by a country mile. Whilst none of us can open and shut the doors, or check the fitting, one can observe the following:

    Front door - large head suggesting measured then made incorrectly.

    Back door - unequal sides, so ditto.

    Stable door - handle and height against the ethos of Lifetime Homes and Buildings Regulations.

    Then aesthetics - why does the drip not match for colour or finish?

    All this is just by a cursory glance at the photos. In fairness OP might think the job is delightful, but if so I am puzzled why they should choose to post pictures.
  • robatwork
    robatwork Posts: 7,268 Forumite
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    Furts wrote: »
    The logical answer is unhappy by a country mile.

    I agree about your assessment of the doors. However not with your "logical answer". I think the logical answer is that vomityspice is happy with her (girl power assumption) doors.

    Perhaps she will be back to tell us all.
  • Furts
    Furts Posts: 4,474 Forumite
    robatwork wrote: »
    I agree about your assessment of the doors. However not with your "logical answer". I think the logical answer is that vomityspice is happy with her (girl power assumption) doors.

    Perhaps she will be back to tell us all.

    Who can say about logic? The logical answer would be for the back door to be handed the other way. Here I assume it is set to suit the internal room layout rather than ease to access and egress, and circulation space to operate the door.

    The add on above the stable door puzzles me. If a trickle vent is required (and why would this be above the door?) why not set into into the frame? The aesthetics here are dreadful.

    Then we consider the thresholds. These appear to be low access, so why has nobody raised the paving outside to suit this?

    All round the work shouts loudly "questionnable" and I am being diplomatic here! Put another way one could say a classic example to warn people about sourcing on the web, rather than seeking trusted, knowledgable, competent, local companies.
  • robatwork
    robatwork Posts: 7,268 Forumite
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    I do find the lack of steps outside disturbing. (This works better in a Darth Vader voice).

    Not to mention they were all installed horizontally.
  • Furts
    Furts Posts: 4,474 Forumite
    robatwork wrote: »
    I do find the lack of steps outside disturbing. (This works better in a Darth Vader voice).

    Not to mention they were all installed horizontally.

    Some localised ramps would look nice, and show a nod towards concepts of good practice.

    I am always amazed at the number of consumers who give zero thought to this when replacing external doors. Perhaps the blame lies equally with fitting companies who frequently could not care less here. They really should be striving to raise standards, not lower them!
  • swishy87
    swishy87 Posts: 199 Forumite
    Wow, some people like to pee on people's bonfires don't they!
  • Furts
    Furts Posts: 4,474 Forumite
    swishy87 wrote: »
    Wow, some people like to pee on people's bonfires don't they!

    Or just trying to do the decent thing?

    Or just suggesting consumers should remain alert to the cons involved in home improvements?

    Or to send Vomityspice a pm if you are looking for doors in Derby? Consumers need to be aware of this company and prepare their strategy to suit.

    Your comment adds nothing to the ethos of the mse Forum. It suggests you do not approve of constructive advice.
  • Furts wrote: »
    Some localised ramps would look nice, and show a nod towards concepts of good practice.

    I am always amazed at the number of consumers who give zero thought to this when replacing external doors. Perhaps the blame lies equally with fitting companies who frequently could not care less here. They really should be striving to raise standards, not lower them!

    You really do like the sound of your own voice most of it im sure you copy and paste from you previous crap you post
    1. why is is the door installers job to raise the outside step to comply with document m when the original house builder chose to pave the area 150mm below the door common practice until the new regulations came out
    2 trickle vent to stable door could this be to let steam out of kitchen and put in top of frame in a add on profile so as mosture doesnt effect the carbon fibre reinforcement in the frame
    3 outward opening door could this be because of light switches originally fitted by builder before the conservatory was there door may well of opened in on same side and space needed inside the room hence now opening out .
    4 frame margins bigger in places to allow for internal plaster finishes ie dot and dab plasterboard with varying internal margins

    Im suprised you havent droned on about cheap composites as usual but then again they are made from Nan ya slabs brought in from china of all places Door Stop use them as do majority of others
    https://www.door-stop.co.uk/blog/post/2013/08/12/Nan-Ya-slabs-on-ebay-for-163;5!.aspx

    "I have not checked out the door, but with this standard of work, I would not be surprised if it is a sub standard, cut price, Chinese import."
    if you think peoples advice is helpfull please take the time to clicking the thank you button it gives great satisfaction
  • Furts
    Furts Posts: 4,474 Forumite
    You really do like the sound of your own voice most of it im sure you copy and paste from you previous crap you post
    1. why is is the door installers job to raise the outside step to comply with document m when the original house builder chose to pave the area 150mm below the door common practice until the new regulations came out
    2 trickle vent to stable door could this be to let steam out of kitchen and put in top of frame in a add on profile so as mosture doesnt effect the carbon fibre reinforcement in the frame
    3 outward opening door could this be because of light switches originally fitted by builder before the conservatory was there door may well of opened in on same side and space needed inside the room hence now opening out .
    4 frame margins bigger in places to allow for internal plaster finishes ie dot and dab plasterboard with varying internal margins

    Im suprised you havent droned on about cheap composites as usual but then again they are made from Nan ya slabs brought in from china of all places Door Stop use them as do majority of others
    https://www.door-stop.co.uk/blog/post/2013/08/12/Nan-Ya-slabs-on-ebay-for-163;5!.aspx

    "I have not checked out the door, but with this standard of work, I would not be surprised if it is a sub standard, cut price, Chinese import."

    When getting work done it is reasonable to request the paving be lifted. It is also reasonable for the installers to offer to do this. If the installers do not have competence they could get someone to do it. An analogy would be a car getting repaired at a dealer. It is reasonable to expect the repairs to be done to the latest technical updates.

    Of course there is a reason for everything. We both know that. The trickle vent looks poor, and there should be proper ventilation for a kitchen. A trickle vent does not meet Buildings Regulations for this purpose. Hence it is correct to say it looks odd.

    An outward opening door is normally fitted to save internal space. I have a number on my home for this purpose. The obvious drawback, is hitting people when the door is opened. Here the installers should point this out to the customer.

    Of course margins can vary inside, but a typical scenario with countless doors and windows is they are not measured correctly. Add ons get fitted, silicone beads cover a multitude of variations, and cover strips likewise.

    All in I stand by my observation. That is I have not seen the doors, but on the basis of photos they raise questions worthy of a look. No different to you doing a quality control check on any job you undertake - doing a thorough sign off before handing the job over to the customer.
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