Drop Kerb

phil24_7

Furts wrote: »

Planning Permission does not last forever. Plus Planning has nothing to do with the footpath which will be adopted land owned by the Council.

You wish to have safe access over the Council's land and it is irrelevant what you think may have been granted 20 years ago.

For accessing over this land the Council could have taken action against you years ago, so it is best to eat humble pie and pay for the process someone chose not to do 20 years ago.

There is far more work involved than just lowering a kerb, hence there will be costs with this process. Since you want this process done it is right that you should pay for it, and not all Council Tax payers.

Once meaningful works have commenced then then planning permission for the whole job is infinite.

I know this as I have planning permission for an extension over my garage (which was also part of the permission) and although I have not started it, I can do it at any time. I also haven't had building control sign off on a completed job meaning if and when I get around to adding the bedroom(s) then current building standards will apply, not future standards. If I want to sell my house before then I can always get the works signed off.

phil24_7

As above, I would budget £750 - £1000 and you will have to use their appointed contractors.

keith969

Well, the situation so far is that the county council streetworks people say to contact the district council's planning office to check whether planning permission is required for access. So a quick call to the planning folks and I have to submit a 'permitted development' form to them plus £45 for them to say whether I can go ahead under permitted development. That's just 'informal advice'; if they say no then a planning application would have to be made. I'm hoping that in view of the previous work, this won't be necessary, but I won't know for sure until they review the details sent.

Then, if they are OK, I can submit to the streetworks people and they'll tell me if they give permission, for a further fee of £100.

Finally if they do, then I have to get one of their approved contractors to do the work...

cyclonebri1

I looked at this a couple of years ago as I have a single dropped kerb but a double drive.

My council wanted £1100, the lowest, Northumbria wanted £450 for the same.
I didn't drop the kerb.

somethingcorporate

It is a bit of a money-making excercise. We have had the same here with planning and dropping of kerbs etc.

Just be patient and let the cogs turn (and expect to get billed at every turn).

keith969

So I finally received permission for the drop kerb from the Highways&Transport people, accompanied by 10 rather scary documents with specifications etc.

It has to be carried out off-peak hours (9:30-15:30) and signage etc put up as its on a classified B road. I hope that's not going to bump the cost astronomically.

Any advice on quotes - the council have given a list of 22 contractors, of which the closest seem to be based in or near Oxford?

force_ten

keith969 wrote: »

So I finally received permission for the drop kerb from the Highways&Transport people, accompanied by 10 rather scary documents with specifications etc.

It has to be carried out off-peak hours (9:30-15:30) and signage etc put up as its on a classified B road. I hope that's not going to bump the cost astronomically.

Any advice on quotes - the council have given a list of 22 contractors, of which the closest seem to be based in or near Oxford?

reading what you have written you didn't need planning permission in the end ?

when i applied a couple of years ago i was told that if my drive was going to join an A,B or C class road i would have to apply for planning permission

this may seem like an unnecessary expense and hastle to most of us but my understanding of it is

they do this to make sure that the driveway is in a safe position when it enters the road, you may have needed to provide space to turn a car around so you didn't have to reverse into the drive

the highways department are really restrictive as to where a private drive enters the highway and many factors are taken into account like traffic count road width and proximity to bends or other entrances and exits to and from the highway, also factors like police, fire and ambulance stations and proximity to local schools are a major consideration

without an application for planning they cant look at how safe the location that you want to enter and exit the highway is in relation to obstacles or traffic sensitive areas

the restrictions imposed re time of work is a restriction you would normally see on an A road or a trunk road the fact that they have imposed this on a B road i would say it might have high traffic numbers at peak times or some other traffic or time sensitive indicator on the road, hence the 9.30 am to 15.30pm permit to work restriction

keith969

force_ten wrote: »

reading what you have written you didn't need planning permission in the end ?

No - I had a letter from the planning dept. saying that the permission granted back in 1997 is still valid (yes I was surprised) and, I quote, "a further application will not be required'.

So far I've rung 4 contractors for quotes, 1 said its too far away, 2 said they are busy in the next 6 months and the 4th said they could probably do it at the end of September. No recession in the groundworks trade then

force_ten

when i did mine i had the same issue and most of the contractors did not want to do just the drop kerbs and wanted to do the work on the driveway as well but they were quoting silly prices

in the end i used a contractor that was not on the approved council list and that was acceptable as long as the contractor could provide sufficient public liability and had the relevant NRSWA qualifications to provide correct road works guarding and to dig in the highway

I paid £650 for two droppers and four dropped kerbs and tarmac for a 1.5 mt by 4 mt section of tarmac and got it at a lower price as i contracted him to do the marshalls Priora drive and the SUDS sub base so it was five days work for him