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My father was born in Portugal but he was brought up in India and my mother was born in London and she was brought up in India, I was born in India but brought up in Scotland.
So I hold British and Portuguese passport and Indian OCI card (Visa free entry card)
My fathers father was born in Brazil and mother was born in Portugal, my Mother father was born Scotland and mother was born Australia.
So maybe one day I can apply for Brazilian and Australian citizenship.What happens if you push this button?0 -
kingrulzuk wrote: »My father was born in Portugal but he was brought up in India and my mother was born in London and she was brought up in India, I was born in India but brought up in Scotland.
So I hold British and Portuguese passport and Indian OCI card (Visa free entry card)
My fathers father was born in Brazil and mother was born in Portugal, my Mother father was born Scotland and mother was born Australia.
So maybe one day I can apply for Brazilian and Australian citizenship.
Sounds very interesting. You'd had to check were citizens of Brazil and Australia at time or their birth and how law changed. Confirming citizenship, when parent is citizen is easy, if grandparent, much harder and then usual residency requirements apply.0 -
I was wondering how all this citizenship caper works- OH is going to apply for an Irish passport when his British one expires next year as he has one Northern Irish and one Southern Irish grandparent. Because of his disabilities it will be likely be up to me to sort the application- can he hold dual British and Irish citizenship and both passports and how does he prove his grandparents birth? We are going to Dublin next month so if he needs to do anything while he's over there he can.
I'm very jealous- I've wanted an Irish passport for years and my Dad is eligible but I'm not sadly! Both me and OH were brought up in and around Irish family/heritage and both of us are extremely proud of our roots.*The RK and FF fan club* #Family*Don’t Be Bitter- Glitter!* #LotsOfLove ‘Darling you’re my blood, you have my heartbeat’ Dad 20.02.200 -
can he hold dual British and Irish citizenship and both passports and how does he prove his grandparents birth? We are going to Dublin next month so if he needs to do anything while he's over there he can.
Yes UK and Irish passports are able to be held concurrently. Many people use both as Irish passport holders tend to get cheaper visas. Apparently, Irish passport holders have easier time travelling through "hostile" areas. Have a look on the department of foreign affairs and speak to the Irish passport office, it is very busy at the minute.0 -
I was wondering how all this citizenship caper works- OH is going to apply for an Irish passport when his British one expires next year as he has one Northern Irish and one Southern Irish grandparent. Because of his disabilities it will be likely be up to me to sort the application- can he hold dual British and Irish citizenship and both passports and how does he prove his grandparents birth? We are going to Dublin next month so if he needs to do anything while he's over there he can.
I'm very jealous- I've wanted an Irish passport for years and my Dad is eligible but I'm not sadly! Both me and OH were brought up in and around Irish family/heritage and both of us are extremely proud of our roots.
You can just "apply for passport" if you're not citizen. You have to apply or confirm citizenship first. If you OH can prove, that was born as Irish citizen, that's great, but if not, has to go thru whole citizenship application first, which is rather long and can be expensive too. I don't know about Irish, but British fee stands now £1236.0 -
I have had a nightmare, trying to get info, the consulate does not answer phone at all.
What I need to know is - do I need to apply for citizenship first or just apply for passport. What docs, what format, translated etc.
The consular website is just one circle of nonsense.
I cannot get an appointment on online system, they do not exist for years on the calendar!! and in any case what is the point of an appointment, if I turn up with incorrect paperwork.
My mother did not register anything for me in Italy or at the Italian consulate in UK (I was baptised in Italy, that is all).
I literally can do nothing, there is no contact options, just emails that just send back generic answers..0 -
pollyanna24 wrote: »I would love to move over there, but I thought jobs were quite bad as well.
I was just thinking about getting the Irish passport and use that when I go abroad. I've been told I can get one as my dad is Irish and has an Irish passport, but at the same time have been told I have left it too late to get an American passport (my Mum is American with an American passport).
This is true (regarding the US passport), you would have needed to have your birth registered with the State Department, as we did with our son.“And all shall be well. And all shall be well. And all manner of things shall be exceeding well.”
― Julian of Norwich
In other words, Don't Panic!0 -
bitten_by_cutie wrote: »I have had a nightmare, trying to get info, the consulate does not answer phone at all.
What I need to know is - do I need to apply for citizenship first or just apply for passport. What docs, what format, translated etc.
The consular website is just one circle of nonsense.
I cannot get an appointment on online system, they do not exist for years on the calendar!! and in any case what is the point of an appointment, if I turn up with incorrect paperwork.
My mother did not register anything for me in Italy or at the Italian consulate in UK (I was baptised in Italy, that is all).
I literally can do nothing, there is no contact options, just emails that just send back generic answers..
You're already been told here, it appears you were born Italian citizen, therefore you don't need to apply for citizenship , just for passport.0 -
It should be relatively easy for you given that your mother is Italian. I have many Argentine friends who applied for an Italian citizenship and passport on the basis that one grandparent was born there,they do not speak italian at all. They said it was fairly easy, so you need to go to the Italian embassy and go from there, or just send them an email asking.
I am Argentine and have British citizenship, I never gave up my own nationality. My children have British, Argentine and now we will do Irish passports for them( grandad is Irish).Mejor morir de pie que vivir toda una vida de rodillas.0 -
Firstly it is the consulate and not the embassy.
As far as I can see from website, I have to apply for citizenship, I cannot just apply for a passport. Being 'born' an Italian citizen outside of Italy, does not mean you do not have to prove it, plus there are 2 types - birth registered and not registered at consulate.
I fall in to the 'birth not registered at consulate' catagory. so the list is longer for me. The consulate want the usual my birth cert and marriage cert, mother birth cert and marriage cert, utility, passports for both.
My mother said that 'she' was registered at the consulate - whatever that means, maybe she means for her passport renewals etc, but she does not remember registering me with them.
But they also want x2 declarations from 2 different UK Gov archives in stating she was not naturalised as there are x2 post and pre 1986!!.
The documents have to be translated and also declared legal by the a UK legislative body (fee for each doc for each process).
I have several questions, so not being able to be able to speak to anyone, is a problem; I want to know if the Italian docs eg. mothers birth and marriage certificate, needs translation - they are already in Italian so assume not, website is unclear. Do they need to be declared legal by the UK body, if they are already Italian? Also is the archives x2 for proof of non-naturalisation really necessary for an Italian passport holder who currently resides in Italy?
The fee for citizenship is 300euro, which is fine, but legalising and translating dozens of docs for nothing would be costly and a full-time job to sort out....0
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