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I am a British born citizen with British passport, with an Italian mother, who has an Italian passport. My mother used to live in UK but now lives in Italy, but always kept her Italian passport.

I would like an Italian passport, I partly always thought it could be handy but never got round to it, but now since brexit, seems it might be of value.

Is dual citizenship different to just having 2 passports - or is it the same thing?

I am clueless where to start, what docs I need, where to go, and if I am even eligible.

Can anyone who has specific Italian experience of this, help me out?
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  • elsien
    elsien Posts: 35,979 Forumite
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    Would the Italian embassy not be a good starting point?
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  • pollyanna24
    pollyanna24 Posts: 4,390 Forumite
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    I know a lot of my friends are doing the equivalent, but getting Irish passports!
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  • dandy-candy
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    I know a lot of my friends are doing the equivalent, but getting Irish passports!

    A friend of mine texted me to say she was thinking of moving to Ireland, I don't really understand what she meant. I thought jobs and the economy is pretty dire over there at the moment?
  • DigForVictory
    DigForVictory Posts: 12,054 Forumite
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    edited 24 June 2016 at 1:53PM
    OP you can have dual nationality (two lots of tax paperwork every year, two Wills, it is *not* a cakewalk) but with a genuine Italian mum, you are in the guinea seats - see here & dear old Wikipedia

    You can also:
    marry an EU citizen (may require 5 years before you are eligible for citizenship, so due diligence recommended)
    study overseas (many EU countries are in no hurry to loose folk with degrees etc & have a fast track nationality scheme to keep visiting academics, still due diligence recommended)
    just plain up sticks & move there - live & work in a country, learn & use the language & many EU countries will consider you for citizenship after 5 years - again due diligence recommended.
    Buy in - Malta currently costs around 1 million US dollars (not very MS!)

    The blood relative route is the safest as it's unlikely to be subject to quotas price controls & other changes in the light of Brexit - all the very best OP!
  • pollyanna24
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    A friend of mine texted me to say she was thinking of moving to Ireland, I don't really understand what she meant. I thought jobs and the economy is pretty dire over there at the moment?

    I would love to move over there, but I thought jobs were quite bad as well.

    I was just thinking about getting the Irish passport and use that when I go abroad. I've been told I can get one as my dad is Irish and has an Irish passport, but at the same time have been told I have left it too late to get an American passport (my Mum is American with an American passport).
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  • Amara
    Amara Posts: 2,176 Forumite
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    edited 25 June 2016 at 9:46PM
    I am a British born citizen with British passport, with an Italian mother, who has an Italian passport. My mother used to live in UK but now lives in Italy, but always kept her Italian passport.

    I would like an Italian passport, I partly always thought it could be handy but never got round to it, but now since brexit, seems it might be of value.

    Is dual citizenship different to just having 2 passports - or is it the same thing?

    I am clueless where to start, what docs I need, where to go, and if I am even eligible.

    Can anyone who has specific Italian experience of this, help me out?
    No, it's not . Passport is just a document confirming citizenship, you don't have to have one to be citizen, but you have to be citizen to apply for passport.
    Do you speak Italian? Go on official government website and find out, what's it's needed to get or confirm citizenship. If your mother is Italian, is likely you're already Italian citizen or you can easily get one on grants having Italian parent.
  • bitten_by_cutie
    bitten_by_cutie Posts: 64 Forumite
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    edited 25 June 2016 at 9:15PM
    thanks for info.

    Another question. Renouncing citizenship - what does that mean? Would having a British passport at any point renounce Italian status?

    I was slightly mistaken, I just asked mum and she did have a British passport at some points in her several decades in UK, she cannot remember which one she had when I was born. She has an Italian one now, and for the last several years.

    Also through myself, if I get an Italian passport, can my kids get Italian passports, or would they need to apply via my mothers status?

    Yes I do speak Italian - I just wanted to get as much info as poss, as I know their bureaucracy is difficult, having dealt with it on other matters.
  • onomatopoeia99
    onomatopoeia99 Posts: 7,159 Forumite
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    I would love to move over there, but I thought jobs were quite bad as well.
    According to my Italian friend, terrible would be a better description of the jobs situation than quite bad. She wants to leave the UK as a result of the vote, since she no longer feels welcome despite having lived and worked here more than half her life, but wouldn't go back to Italy.
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  • Amara
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    Renouncing citizenship- very rare event, as most countries allows double citizenships. For some reasons person doesn't want to be citizen anymore and wants to renounce citizenship. Not every country allows it and sometimes procedures are exceptionally hard ( for example in Poland person has to petition directly to the President and he even doesn't have to answer). It looks like you're born British And Italian citizen (is your Father British?) , so all you have to do now is proving your status.
    Did your mum ever applied for citizenship? It's a long and complicated , but necessary process to get British passport. I'm under impression she didn't, as she'd rather remembered it.
    If you're Italian citizen, your children are automatically Italian citizens too.
  • My mum definately had a British passport at some point, I remember seeing it when I was much younger.

    Her memory is not great.

    So does that mean I am out of luck if she became a British citizen and had British passport at some time?

    She has an Italian passport now though.

    My dad is British Citizen with British passport - did she get her British passport via him by marriage? did she acquire British citizenship through him maybe?

    I am just hoping that because she NOW has Italian passport and residency and was born in Italy, this is all that counts.....but wonder if they will look up records of previous passports, possibly to when I was born.

    I suppose I can flip to my grandparents records from Italy, but that is alot more complicated to sort out as they are long gone....
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