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ex and ctc, cb problem

hanstar
hanstar Posts: 123 Forumite
edited 23 June 2016 at 10:35PM in Benefits & tax credits
I really need some advice. I recently left my partner, taking my 3 children with me. We are currently living with my parents and my ex has kept the house. he does not work and claims Esa? (I think)
I was claiming for the 3 children wtc, ctc and cb as the children are with me 75% (or more) of the time. I agreed to put one of the children into his name so he can get the rent covered and help with food bills while the children stay with him. I have changed child benefit but not yet done child tax as I was not allowed to make a change to my claim while they were setting up the claim and do self employment checks. so what I want to know is can one person claim child benefit and the other claim the child tax if the child has shared residency between the 2 people. He is really angry that I have not yet changed it over and seemingly everything always boils down to money and not the children.


having escaped his manipulative ways I feel I have now just got myself in a situation where for a quiet life I have made more problems.
I am the one who has always worked and still do while trying to look after 3 children for 5 days a week so I don't mind him having the cb for one of the children as he has them in his care 2-3 days a week and I can then feel better in the knowledge that he has a decent home for them and enough to buy them food and whatever else they need. prior to this I have been sending them with food.
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  • tomtontom
    tomtontom Posts: 7,929 Forumite
    You don't mind him claiming CB for a child he is not the primary carer for, so he can claim more benefits? You're making yourself a party to a fraudulent claim.
  • hanstar
    hanstar Posts: 123 Forumite
    he's not the primary carer but with 3 children and if he has them say 2-3 days a week then I thought that equaits to having one child full time? I felt bad that I was getting 100% of the money? he is on the lowest income and wouldn't get any help with money for the children. hadn't really thought about it being fraudulent just wanted to try and make things easier financially and otherwise I would end up paying him to look after his own children.
  • bloolagoon
    bloolagoon Posts: 7,973 Forumite
    It's fraud and don't be part of it. You can voluntarily pay expenses for your children to him to cover expenses.,
    Tomorrow is the most important thing in life
  • kimplus8
    kimplus8 Posts: 999 Forumite
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    You need to put the claim back into your name ASAP! If the child is not residing with him then it is fraud and CTC, HB, CSA all check the CB database when you are claiming you have kids so you will lose any entitlement for 3 kids as he is claiming the child loves with him. You can't claim tax credits for a child that CB believe to be living elsewhere. I hope you get it sorted ASAP but to be fair his rent/ bills/ living expenses are not your problem, you don't live there so let him get on with it.
    Just a single mum, working full time, bit of a nutcase, but mostly sensible, wanting to be Mortgage free by 2035 or less! £196,000/£177560 to go
  • tomtontom
    tomtontom Posts: 7,929 Forumite
    hanstar wrote: »
    he's not the primary carer but with 3 children and if he has them say 2-3 days a week then I thought that equaits to having one child full time? I felt bad that I was getting 100% of the money? he is on the lowest income and wouldn't get any help with money for the children. hadn't really thought about it being fraudulent just wanted to try and make things easier financially and otherwise I would end up paying him to look after his own children.

    No, you can't claim for 3 x 1/3 of a child!

    You're free to give him money from your own claim if you wish to.
  • sangie595
    sangie595 Posts: 6,092 Forumite
    He could quit smoking cannabis, and that should pay for the rent and the food.
  • hanstar
    hanstar Posts: 123 Forumite
    ok, thanks, see still being manipulated and taken advantage of my good nature even now. will sort it out asap.
  • kimplus8
    kimplus8 Posts: 999 Forumite
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    I've just ready your other thread about leaving him. He smokes weed, has no desire to work?? You are allowing him to continue in this cycle of you give him money. Why would you allow your children to stay with him 2/3 times a week if you know he will be either intoxicated with drugs or miserable and 'vile' because he's on a come down??
    Get all your finances in your name.
    Phone women's aid- you need support from the domestic abuse service, it's not physical abuse but it is certainly control/ emotional abuse.
    Do not let him have the kids until you know he is clean because of social services in any way get wind of you sending you kids to him when he is potentially stoned you will be up sh*¥ creak without a paddle.
    Please do not put up with his behaviour.
    You need to focus on you and your kids right now and let him sort his own mess out.
    Best of luck- pm me if you want to chat, I've been in a similar position in the past and women's aid have been fantastic
    Just a single mum, working full time, bit of a nutcase, but mostly sensible, wanting to be Mortgage free by 2035 or less! £196,000/£177560 to go
  • hanstar
    hanstar Posts: 123 Forumite
    He is receiving a lot of help now after he was nearly sectioned after I left he has been having psychiatric help and has regular meeting and coucelling and drug help with mind. I hate that I am still being manipulated even now. he does it in a way I don't realize and he actually told me that his councillor had recommended that I do this so he could keep the house. i'm so bloody stupid. I just thought this was a way that I would be sure he kept a roof over his head and for the children when they stayed, my biggest worry was he'd loose the house and end up in a flat where I wouldn't know what it was like and my children would still have to go and visit. I feel safer knowing they are going to a nice house.
  • hanstar
    hanstar Posts: 123 Forumite
    and I spoke in person to his phsychiatrist who said that I should allow him to see the children as he was no threat to them. he does love his children and I am not sure where I stand if I decide he should only see them every other weekend? can I just make that decision if I don't think he should see them more than that?
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