Young people and the economy

mwpt

In the spirit of michaels threads I thought I'd contribute one.

When older people are voting for exit, claiming that they are protecting younger people's futures, why do they not ask younger people what they actually want?

The polls tell us that the largest percentage of remain voters are 19-29. The next largest are the 30-39.

Young working people want to remain in the EU as they believe their prospects are better.

Perhaps ask your children or grand children how they want their futures to look because they have a lot more of it in front of them. They are also the ones who will be paying for your NHS and state pensions in the years to come.

mrginge

So what you are saying is that old people's opinions don't matter.

mwpt

mrginge wrote: »

So what you are saying is that old people's opinions don't matter.

No, that's not what I said. Why would you choose to infer that from my post?

Lokolo

mrginge wrote: »

So what you are saying is that old people's opinions don't matter.

Being a youngster, they should be worth less anyway as they won't feel the repercussions for as long.....

(that is said in jest... a little)

mwpt

In case there was confusion, as mrginge seems to be, this isn't about older people's votes not counting. Completely the opposite, they count for a lot.

The point was, if one of your reasons to vote out is to protect future generations, why not ask those future generations what they think. And we have polls telling us what they think.

Not all of course, you may be young and voting out and that's good, the more young that turn out to vote the better.

ruggedtoast

The boomers only ever vote in their own interests. I am not sure why so many of them feel voting us out of an economic system they have benefited from hugely is in their interests.

Having spoken to a few I think its because now they are drawing pensions (paid for by the young) they are no longer worried about employment and are more interested in not having to queue up at the doctors. Ergo immigration from Europe is suddenly their latest "thing".

mrginge

mwpt wrote: »

In case there was confusion, as mrginge seems to be, this isn't about older people's votes not counting. Completely the opposite, they count for a lot.

The point was, if one of your reasons to vote out is to protect future generations, why not ask those future generations what they think. And we have polls telling us what they think.

Not all of course, you may be young and voting out and that's good, the more young that turn out to vote the better.

There's no confusion.
I didn't suggest that you had said old people's votes shouldn't count.

I suggested that you said their opinions didn't matter.

Do you not think that it would be useful for the young people to also ask the old people what they think?
That would be much more equitable as each group can get an understanding of the other's perspective and form balanced opinions.

But no, you only want group A to listen to group B, with the outcome of group B getting what they want.

That is why I suggest that you believe old people's opinions don't matter.

kabayiri

The young who have just missed out could do what those who 'just missed out' back in the mid seventies.

Wait 40 years for the next referendum bus.

I do have some sympathy for some of the refugees who vote in a Swedish referendum...you know the ones who claim to be 17 but actually look 28.

mwpt

kabayiri wrote: »

The young who have just missed out could do what those who 'just missed out' back in the mid seventies.
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Possibly, we don't have an alternate reality to see. We do know that the young people of today prefer their futures in Europe.

antrobus

mwpt wrote: »

...Perhaps ask your children or grand children how they want their futures to look because they have a lot more of it in front of them. They are also the ones who will be paying for your NHS and state pensions in the years to come.

Anecdotally, I can report that both my children (18 and 20) are very keen to remain, and regard anyone who supports leave as a swivel-eyed fascist.

mwpt

mrginge wrote: »

There's no confusion.
I didn't suggest that you had said old people's votes shouldn't count.

I suggested that you said their opinions didn't matter.

Do you not think that it would be useful for the young people to also ask the old people what they think?
That would be much more equitable as each group can get an understanding of the other's perspective and form balanced opinions.

But no, you only want group A to listen to group B, with the outcome of group B getting what they want.

That is why I suggest that you believe old people's opinions don't matter.

Young people are not claiming to be voting remain to protect older generations.