Elite 11+ shopping and chat thread

Savvybuyer

Change of plan I think: I won't be going to M today (I was already thinking of not going several hours before) as I'm nowhere near 'updated' to 6th July out of date information and can't be bothered with it. I need more time to go through it at my leisure, and I'm still doing with a break, and can try and catch up on Monday when a lot will have changed so it will then be somewhat more now than it was already going to be and I can cope with that. I just need (and always needed - quite regardless of anything else I've posted about) a few more days off and just eventually get there - so... I'm just lazy at the moment:rotfl::rotfl:. That's the truth - lazy and can't be bothered:rotfl:. I'm going to get some sleep! Goodnight (I feel quite fine now).

You never know - I might go out to M late on in the day if I can get some of the list to 6th July finished during the day, although I'm doubting that I will at the moment. So, for now, I've pushed it off until Monday. So, you'll just have to deal with what is there and continue to check msm for updates. It looks like everything I'm adding in bold now has already expired:rotfl: , whilst the stuff that was already there before is still on. Ha, ha, don't take that literally though as it may have changed - use msm on top (or m.com, or maybe even your own knowledge from instore) but the basic information seems it should still be fairly good:cool:.

Goodnight:wave:.

I could just end up forgetting about this and not bothering going to M again for this whole thing:rotfl:. (Well, I won't forget, it'll be an active choice not to go or, otherwise, even though I remember, aren't bothered to go and do it.) But, I don't know: it's something I do in my free time (and is occasionally useful) and it's up to me to decide when and what I do in my free time:cool:. So, all my best wishes!:) I'll have a nice relax and rest - will do me good!

Savvybuyer

I wonder what Mr Corbyn thinks about what was said of him on Newsnight earlier. (Some will think it now rude that I interrupt with politics but it's not intended this way.) I think it may have been bleeped as it was a direct description applying to an individual and that the BBC did not wish to broadcast that (even though they still have) or, if unbleeped, to be appearing to endorse or support it. Impartiality is required but only where it is deemed to be "due" and it is not deemed to be "due" when it relates to societal standards and any questioning or challenge to those. So, it's hypocritical and not impartial at all:rotfl:. But, then, it does not have it to be (only needs to be when that, arguably, get-out fudge of "due" is required).

I think, as regards what Mr Corbyn thinks, I think he probably does not give a ****. Ah, those four asterisks again:rotfl:! And, yes, in order to stop those pondering minds, it is the more severe of the two words you are considering. Or maybe three (could be thinking of "damn" I suppose and it's not that). To defend myself, it is sparing, it is in context and it does not directly relate to an individual. I think really what we ought to do, as a society, is use that word far more. I know that some people will not want this to happen at all (probably also because of - even more severe than me - connotations they got when they were in their childhood far more years ago than mine) but the aim being that it is used so much as to become totally unshocking, completely used and expected and completely drained of all offence and thus made totally inoffensive. It ought to be totally - past tense of the same word! Look, that may be just the strength of what I think and may be simply truth. I think truth and honesty are better rather than just pretence. I know some people would object - perhaps a minority that is slowly getting smaller?

To me though, for all intents and purposes, in most situations today of normal society (but strangely not on broadcasting across entire public places - but I suppose that's like shouting it across a whole place), it's now exactly the same as saying "Mr Corbyn is a bloody disgrace". It means the same thing and, normally (and I'm not talking about broadcasting trying to hide it, uncomfortably and awkwardly for me, in public places), it's exactly the same strength to me now. And notice how I am allowed to print the word "bloody" here, as the older generation are still in control of much of our society.

(I bet people will moan about "declining standards" - but that won't matter once other people are around in a hundred years' time. I bet this thread will still be here, in server space, locked for people to read and, long after I've gone, for them to look back and wonder why and what all the fuss was about. To me it would be simply about using different words to what we have used before, so, standards completely intact and no decline or incline at all. Sorry - I'm not really, it's just me pretending to be polite:rotfl: and just an automatic thing that I say "sorry" - but I think the 'stronger' word is a better word. I don't think it is stronger, ordinarily, now - though perhaps it is on TV played in public place in certain situations - I don't know. I think as a society we ought to go up the scale. I think it just adds emphasis, is just something normally said as a normal type of phrase in society today and is not intended seriously offensive or, if it was, the actual word would have failed to cause me offence so wasn't offensive and would remain the case even if it had described me, so if it's intended to cause offence it fails to do so (a good thing) or maybe I now misunderstand the English language? For me, despite my problems elsewhere (or even here with it bleeped?:question:), I think it's nice and safely mild for me in many situations now (but obviously not the TV across public place one, I don't know why I have a problem with broadcasting or sound systems which I don't have with actual people's use in physical presence in real life, maybe it's because rules have, in retrospect rather uselessly, been applied to broadcasting that has left me with a problem therefore with it in those situations) but otherwise now mild for me, it's become a much better word than it used to be - nicely tamed in power and made less harsh for me, despite the problems that I have as well. I don't mind if we have nothing left for when we really are angry, as far as I see, making something inoffensive removes a problem that has bedevilled parts of my life and I disagree and don't think language should have power as I don't ever want to be shocked by it as I don't like feeling uncomfortable and it's just an unnecessary addition to anything else that might be uncomfortable - no need for words to be uncomfortable along with anything else that is - and useless that I've grown up in a society in which that is the case. I'd like the whole thing taken away, by which I mean made totally inoffensive and used freely, but I don't see that that is going to be happen for probably quite some time yet.)

We actually start using it less (and I don't mean "bloody") when we become of the age to having children. What seems most bizarre to me is that we then don't say in front of children, presumably because we think that doing so would be setting a "bad" example for them, even though we do it all ourselves (in total hypocrisy) and yet we are not at all bad?!? I do not know why it is considered to be a "bad" example, except in relation to the defining thing of it itself. I can't even physically bring myself to say it in front of anyone except only my brother of similar age, so that's the problem society has given me myself with it. And the fact I'm not allowed to say it in some situations compounds that problem for me even more. Yet that's obviously because I don't wish to upset anyone or, in some places, make them feel uncomfortable (the precise thing that has regularly and repeatedly been done to me - but not by people in normal life, instead solely by broadcasting or CD playing. In fact, I don't get bothered now by it on the street, where I hear it in every sentence that I ever overhear - it used to make me slightly uncomfortable there twenty years ago but not now. And I suspect I here it because I am the age I am and therefore people (strangers) around me, just talking normally to their friends, and it's just natural to say it whilst suppressing yourself is not, assume, quite rightly, that it's not going to bother me. I suspect that, if I were over 60, they would not be saying it and would watch themselves. I don't know - I'm not 60: do 60 year olds now regularly hear it on the street?

It doesn't bother me - it's usually said when people are joking and, even if they are perfect strangers, it sometimes makes me laugh because of the clear jokey meaning. They would have to physically approach me shouting at me aggressively and making me afraid that I might be physically assaulted or not know whether that was what they were going to do or not for me to say it had physically "offended" me. Yet that apparently is the only context in which some older people think it's okay. I would prefer it to be in normal conversation, like it actually already is, as that's far better.

We try to keep it from children (which I think is precisely why I have the problems, where I have them, with it that I now as an adult have) yet the English National Corpus database indicates that 0-15 year olds, the very ones we claim it causes "harm" to to hear, indicates they are the very group that uses it six times more than we do! The "harm" that it causes is to our own feelings rather than to children at all, and therefore it's done, hypocritically, purely to protect us and not children.

All this outrage, from time to time, about allegedly "good" and "bad" "role models" that people in public eye's are allegedly supposed to be. It's just enforced standard of a "morality" that is rationally (fortunately, not emotionally) offensive to me. There's videos of people singing songs and dancing, of all adult ages, on the internet with the word in the lyrics repeatedly and none of them apparently showing any evidence of being "offended" but instead enjoying the dancing and the performing of the song! So, clearly it is not, at least not in that, er, "context". What gets me sometimes (although this is because the filter is partly American-based) is that we can't even write words that are used uncensored on daytime broadcasting on here:rotfl:. We're children and we have to use only language that is suitable for under 12s:rotfl::rotfl:.

EDIT: Just going to try something - but I'll do it elsewhere on the website, and then immediately delete it, just so you don't see.

EDIT 2: No, it actually does censor that word, replaces it with exclamations, one that isn't a swear in America but is considered to be here. What a shame:rotfl:. I've safely taken the site's exclamation replacement away now. I know - I can see we wouldn't want to be hurling abuse at each other, so I can see. Some things get through the filter and some things don't - so, as we saw earlier, it doesn't stop "inappropriate" posts, filter or none. Anyway, we would no more be hurling abuse than we would talking about things that are irrelevant on here. We talk aboiut whatever comes up in the conversation and things that aren't part of the conversation aren't relevant here. And everyone should treat people how they (and others around) are happy being treated. Which is precisely what standard has been contravened with me:rotfl:. Elsewhere in life. And if I "wanted" to be called things that other people don't, then I wouldn't be allowed that either. Seems the "morality" only works one way:rotfl::rotfl:.

Whilst, in some situations, I nowadays love some words because they aren't allowed in other places, in a way I also wish the whole thing had never been created as I would never have had the bane of my life and discomfort that has arisen ever since. It's nowadays the most irksome thing I find about our society now in fact. Wish we were always allowed to say whatever we want and never have the capacity to cause anyone discomfort or offence ever by it. Really fed up by now (twenty years later) of this still being "swearing" and the constant offensive reminders of that:rotfl:.

Alright, goodnight, it's also (sometimes my argument) funny. It does - I can think of a few swearword-filled things that I'd like to say about this being swearing. However, I cannot write down any of them here, due to this stupid enforced what claims to be "morality" that isn't. So, I'll have to leave it to your own mind:eek: to come up with precisely what I'm thinking too. And the rest of my society that make it swearing for me by their opinion that it is and their objection to it or otherwise physical reaction to it, I'd have a few swearword insults to apply to you. (even if they have no objection to it, including my very self - well, maybe I do have an objection of severe nature to it as I consider it inappropriate to play those songs with those messages in those places), . And I'm applying them to myself as well as part of the group that has problems related to it, so all is well as it's non-discriminatory and non-specific to any one person! I am in fact far more than stupid (insert swearword before the word "stupid";)). I am - I think I am - I am, objectively, and they'd be a swearword there to call me, for letting this get to me (and moreover I don't care if anyone else thinks I'm demeaning myself, as I do not consider myself to be demeaned by applying any word used by myself in respect of me, none of which I could even bring myself to vocalise or even suggest except, almost, when I'm entirely alone). However, in a sense, it's not "letting" as I don't wish to allow - but, if something makes you uncomfortable, it makes you uncomfortable. There's not much you can do - you can try not to be uncomfortable, but at the end of the day, if you are, you are and whilst you can try to feel okay, it's about emotion and not always possible or easy. I'm having, regularly with songs with swearing meanings in public places in the past, to have myself put into the situation of having actively to try to make myself feel okay and I shouldn't have to be put into that situation in the first place as that's already not neutral if I'm having to take steps in my own thoughts in order to try not to be caused discomfort or "offence" by something - and, all too often, failing to manage to achieve lack of discomfort or extremely bad reaction. It's not something wholly without rationality: it's what it's trying to cover up (or what it seems/is associated with).

Ironically, what I need to do to relieve any stress caused by amy swearing-related (or seeming related) matters used by others is to go into a room by myself and swear!:rotfl::rotfl:

So, safely away from you for now, I'll come back later:rotfl:. I hope I have not caused offence - I mean by "safely away from you", I don't want to imply that I now hate you and don't want to be with you for that reason:rotfl::eek: - what I mean is... well, you know, my safe swearing away from this thread. (And the reason I don't want to imply that I hate you is because I don't.) Bye for now folks, laters!:wave:

Gosh:eek:, I have gone on again - I'll leave the whole post up though anyway, because I don't care(:rotfl:)! And don't worry - "gosh" is not a euphemism for anything more severe - it means "gosh" and I really was thinking that: I always write the word that I am actually thinking, whenever I can. "Gosh" is the appropriate word for the time:cool:. (I'm now looking at myself and why I thought and said "gosh" - perhaps I don't care enough about waffling on, as it's extremely milder:rotfl::rotfl:.)

Anyway, there's nothing anyone can do, as sadly the overall society keeps the bleeped Newsnight word as taboo in certain situations for me, so that I still therefore feel very uncomfortable and object to it myself in those places and think it's inappropriate because of that that would never have arisen if it had never been made problematic hundreds of years ago in the first place. And then over 90% of us are okay with it on TV after 9pm anyway (strange arbitrary time) so don't find it offensive at all there so I rationally can't understand why it's offensive anywhere else, although clearly I've felt my discomfort that I've felt in years past for some reasons.

nerfdad

Good morning
It's not quite carling:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

Nannylala

Good morning another very hot one ...probably one of the few people that prefer it a bit cooler tweets being another ;)feet swollen the last couple of days and absolutely no energy but to all those who enjoy this beautiful weather ..enjoy

diluvsdiscounts

Nannylala wrote: »

Good morning another very hot one ...probably one of the few people that prefer it a bit cooler tweets being another ;)feet swollen the last couple of days and absolutely no energy but to all those who enjoy this beautiful weather ..enjoy

Good morning Nanny, as much as I love the sun yesterday was even a bit too hot for me. I got gardening done first thing and plenty of washing and after that I just had to sit there :rotfl: I think it's given storms for today which should clear the air a bit.

underperky

Good morning ....no night shift again ..hope the sun is out again today

Any body not well hope you feel better today with the sun ...

bubbs

Tinyshoes wrote: »

New shorts for Mr Bubbs. :rotfl:

:rotfl::rotfl: funnily enough I can crochet

bubbs

Morning all, warm already, this weather is ok if you have nothing to do, can sit there with feet up, cols drink and someone fan you :rotfl:

diluvsdiscounts

bubbs wrote: »

Morning all, warm already, this weather is ok if you have nothing to do, can sit there with feet up, cols drink and someone fan you :rotfl:

That sounds like a plan 22 degrees already but it's thundering now. I think this is the first time in my life I've heard thunder in the morning. It has reminded me to put my bin out though, i thought it was someone handling their bin down their drive :rotfl:
Ooh it's lightening now too, no rain yet.......runs to put bin out.......

hornetgirl

Morning all
There's work being done in the road and our water is being switched off for the day at 8am :eek: