Access to property by landlord

Miss_Samantha

theartfullodger wrote: »

It's their home, their property whilst there is a tenancy, even if not paying rent, even if not paying for months.

Of course they can insist they are there: It is their home, their property...

For a VERY long discussion on this matter see....
http://www.landlordzone.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?26589-L-s-right-of-access-for-inspection-or-viewing

Of course nothing can prevent the tenant from being present. It's his home as you say and he can absolutely decide to be present when the landlord will visit.
But if the landlord has a right of access he can use it as defined. The tenant is not entitled to insist that the landlord only visit when he is present. That's what I meant by 'no right to be present'.

AnotherJoe

croto wrote: »

Exactly! It is just the fact that I don't really like people looking around my place (as long as I pay rent I consider it being my place). He is in my opinion just being unreasonable not being able to wait for the next week...

I take good care of the flat and I got a visit from the landlord last month to fix a window, so there is no reason for the landlord to think the place is thrashed...

Look at it from the LL's POV he's probably got a quite inflexible lender who is arranging a valuation visit at second hand (the surveyor is no doubt another company) so it's an absolute pain to rearrange, by sticking rigidit to your rights you really are being awkward for something that won't inconvenience you at all, And then you'll have to take a day off work as well at a later date?

Next time you've got a dripping tap or the heatings on the blink or the hot waters off, the LLs not exactly going to be incented to help you out quickly is he? What ever happened to give and take?

If you want somewhere where no one can ever come and visit in your absence without your agreement, buy a property.

johnbusby

AnotherJoe wrote: »

Look at it from the LL's POV he's probably got a quite inflexible lender who is arranging a valuation visit at second hand (the surveyor is no doubt another company) so it's an absolute pain to rearrange, by sticking rigidit to your rights you really are being awkward for something that won't inconvenience you at all, And then you'll have to take a day off work as well at a later date?

Next time you've got a dripping tap or the heatings on the blink or the hot waters off, the LLs not exactly going to be incented to help you out quickly is he? What ever happened to give and take?

If you want somewhere where no one can ever come and visit in your absence without your agreement, buy a property.

Give and take? The tenant pays rent and the landlord does the repairs - thats the give and take...

Also, how about I turn your argument around - If the LL wants somewhere he can have access to at the drop of a hat, don't be a landlord

Phil_H_MLIA(dip)_Cert_PFS

Your landlord should be able to make arrangement with the lender's valuer to within a day or half-day but probably no more accurate than that.
I have to confess that I leave my property management to lettings agents but I did sit a landlord certification some time back and and I think that you will find that technically they are within their rights to access if they have given notice.

johnbusby

Phil_H_MLIA(dip)_Cert_PFS wrote: »

Your landlord should be able to make arrangement with the lender's valuer to within a day or half-day but probably no more accurate than that.
I have to confess that I leave my property management to lettings agents but I did sit a landlord certification some time back and and I think that you will find that technically they are within their rights to access if they have given notice.

Don't think that it's as straightforward as that as there are conflicting rights on the landlord or tenant side...

AnotherJoe

johnbusby wrote: »

Give and take? The tenant pays rent and the landlord does the repairs - thats the give and take...

Also, how about I turn your argument around - If the LL wants somewhere he can have access to at the drop of a hat, don't be a landlord

But the landlord does have somewhere he can get access to at pretty quick notice. So the discussion is, how reasonable is it for a one off quick visit like this, for the tenant to dig their heels in and insist on being there every time? it's not as if it's harassment or repeated visits.

If I was the LL I'd not be busting a gut next time the tenant wanted anything doing. "Oh it's not convenient right now to come and check why the lights aren't working" or " oh well I can only come and inspect your boiler to see what's wrong at noon, oh that means you need to take a whole day off work instead of half a day eh?" That's where the give and take comes in.

daivid

Back to the OP, were you given a time for the surveyor to come round? The firm doing the survey for LL start work at 7am so I was able to be in for him to come round without it affecting work. Did have to repeat "If they don't turn up before 7:45 they won't get in" when on the phone as the lady kept saying "well we can try to get someone there between 7 and 8" but to be fair the surveyor turned up just after 7 and was done in 10 mins. Depending on your work patterns maybe you can arrange for before or after work?

Old_Git

Jagraf wrote: »

If the landlord want to remortgage and can't get access, maybe they will just sell it instead.

or they might just evict the tenant.
I think the tenant is playing a dangerous game .

Pixie5740

The OP hasn't said no. They've just said not at time A but time B would be OK. Selling the property on the back of that would an extreme reaction to the situation and if that's how the LL chose to behave it's probably best he gets out of the letting property business.

That's assuming the LL can get estate agents and potential buyers over the threshold.

Marvel1

If re-mortgage, let's not confuse Survey and Valuation.

For people who see no problem in allowing the landlord entering and viewing while tenent is not there, ca I come to your house while you are not there just to have a look around?

Miss_Samantha wrote: »

OP has told us what the tenancy agreement says so we cannot comment on whether he has any obligation.

He is the one insisting on being present so, IMHO he should be the one make the effort to make it happen in any case.

The OP is suggesting any other date expect that one.