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Government Announces Ban on Selling Keeper Data To PPCs

But not the UK Government, unfortunately, it's in Australia:

http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/government-to-crack-down-on-private-parking-operators-issuing-fines-20150609-ghk7h1.html

"These private car park operators have been clogging our courts, wasting taxpayers' money and ripping people off ..."

Sounds familiar?

I have been providing assistance, including Lay Representation at Court hearings (current score: won 57, lost 14), to defendants in parking cases for over 5 years. I have an LLB (Hons) degree, and have a Graduate Diploma in Civil Litigation from CILEx. However, any advice given on these forums by me is NOT formal legal advice, and I accept no liability for its accuracy.
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  • Coupon-mad
    Coupon-mad Posts: 155,731 Forumite
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    ''New law to stop shonky parking fines''

    They do say it like it is in Oz! I like that word 'shonky'.

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  • Half_way
    Half_way Posts: 7,565 Forumite
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    Articles (just) over a year old, it looks like over in Australia PPCs had to first petition the courts to get hold of keeper data.
    Meanwhile over here the DVLA just rolls over and gives the data to the PPCs as long as they belong to an accredited trade association, as long as some sort of code of practice is in place.
    The BPA is, in my opinion far from credible and the IPC is another matter altogether.
    The only realistic solution here would be for the DVLA to turn off the electronic link, and only accept requests for data via a hand written form, coupled with an outright ban on automated camera systems
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • beamerguy
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    edited 14 June 2016 at 5:23PM
    The Australian government whilst being strict have always been fair to it's residents.
    Cannot say that about the UK government

    This will cause damage to Smart Parking as they are in Auss and NZ marketing ANPR.

    No doubt NZ will follow

    The DVLA could add the £2.50 to car tax if they don't want to lose revenue and that would bring in £millions every year, much more than the current PPC scammers make them.
    They have to stop these scammers getting access to our information.
    Of course there will be a price to pay, lost revenue to the BPA AND certain closure of the IPC.

    I would be more than happy to pay an extra £2.50 in Road Tax, it would bring in for the DVLA some £70million plus and a lot more.

    In 2013: there were 35 million vehicles licensed for use on the roads in Great Britain, increasing year after year
  • Marktheshark
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    I think if you were to find who gas shares in what, you may find why they hid a new legislative act to screw us all over with in what was billed as protecting freedoms.

    Make no mistake,. "they" have their fingers in the pie here,
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  • Half_way
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    Wasnt there something published a while back, or didn't someone work out that the DVLA effectively makes a loss on providing RK data the the parking parasites?
    From the Plain Language Commission:

    "The BPA has surely become one of the most socially dangerous organisations in the UK"
  • pappa_golf
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    Half_way wrote: »
    Wasnt there something published a while back, or didn't someone work out that the DVLA effectively makes a loss on providing RK data the the parking parasites?




    YES , every time they charge £2.50 they have to buy £50 worth of stationary


    the DVLA manipulate numbers to suit themselves
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  • pappa_golf
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    I think if you were to find who gas shares in what, you may find why they hid a new legislative act to screw us all over with in what was billed as protecting freedoms.

    Make no mistake,. "they" have their fingers in the pie here,




    ahh , do you mean the government Quango loan that Parking eye received in its start up year , the one that gave the government 8% of shares (and profits) in PE
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  • beamerguy
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    pappa_golf wrote: »
    ahh , do you mean the government Quango loan that Parking eye received in its start up year , the one that gave the government 8% of shares (and profits) in PE

    Did the government have a hand in the Supreme courts decision in the Beavis farce ??
  • pappa_golf
    pappa_golf Posts: 8,895 Forumite
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    beamerguy wrote: »
    Did the government have a hand in the Supreme courts decision in the Beavis farce ??


    and "elvis" works in my local chippy
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  • Umkomaas
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    The DCLG report is seriously late in delivery. Makes you wonder whether there are some nasties in it that the BPA is desperately attempting to ameliorate.
    Please note, we are not a legal advice forum. I personally don't get involved in critiquing court case Defences/Witness Statements, so unable to help on that front. Please don't ask. .

    I provide only my personal opinion, it is not a legal opinion, it is simply a personal one. I am not a lawyer.

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