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Used car from main dealer with new MOT brakes fail around 2700 miles later

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  • salubrious
    salubrious Posts: 210 Forumite
    You've got no where to go with regards the mot.

    Possibly with the service, but it would depend if the garage have breached their own service schedule, which is unlikely if an advisory was issued.

    Maybe put it down as a lesson to not ignore advisories on safety critical items such as brakes, what with it being your 19 year old son driving his first car etc
  • loskie
    loskie Posts: 1,761 Forumite
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    you do sound like you are making a lot of excuses for your son.
    Tyres are an easy basic spot.
    Insurance forcing sale: there is a 14 day cancellation period.
    Brakes, why pay 10K for a car with advisories.
    A few lessons in life for a 19 yr old.
    One being NEVER trust a car sales man.
    You will just have to suck it up, make the repairs and move on. You will have a big battle to get anywhere. Dont give the garage any more custom find a small decent local garage to do the mechanics for him.
    What you possibly dont know or wont believe is that your son is hooning around which will result in higher wear rates. All teenagers do it.
  • welshjenni
    welshjenni Posts: 25 Forumite
    Again thanks. When he is home I can go through all the paperwork and take it from there.

    It is not his first car and he does check 'stuff' weekly - obviously not scrupulously enough so I shall be reminding him of that.

    I'm disappointed that some responses imply that ALL 19 year old boys are 'bad or mad' drivers, talk about stereotyping people. Would some of the responses have been different if it had been 59 year old? I only mentioned his age to help explain why I was with him when he went to buy the car... he wouldn't have haggled.
  • z1a
    z1a Posts: 2,522 Forumite
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    edited 9 June 2016 at 8:57PM
    Where do you get £10k from?

    Agree with everybody else that your son ISN'T good at checking these things.

    Or your Brother!
  • welshjenni
    welshjenni Posts: 25 Forumite
    loskie wrote: »
    you do sound like you are making a lot of excuses for your son.
    Insurance forcing sale: there is a 14 day cancellation period.

    Brakes, why pay 10K for a car with advisories.

    A few lessons in life for a 19 yr old.
    One being NEVER trust a car sales man.

    What you possibly dont know or wont believe is that your son is hooning around which will result in higher wear rates. All teenagers do it.

    No not making excuses, just telling it as it was.

    He works long hours, for which a car is essential.

    Hmm hadn't known about the 14 day cooling off period or I would have told him to do that - that's worth remembering.

    And I will never trust a car sales man again - you are right -

    i didn't mention the price of the car And it was certainly nowhere near £10k

    Again not ALL teenagers 'hoon' around - (I didn't) - he may have done 2 years or so ago as a new driver, but I am pretty sure that he doesn't now. He works really long hours, sometimes 70 a week, he rarely has much chance to go out with friends and when he does he usually walks or uses a taxi.

    I certainly don't bury my head in the sand and know that he is no saint but I will stand up for him against people jumping to the wrong (stereotypical) conclusions.

    Thank you for your input.
  • arcon5
    arcon5 Posts: 14,099 Forumite
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    Would make no difference if it was a 59 year old! Should have checked
    But the reason it's not a 59 yr old is because the older you get the wiser you get.
  • Silver-Surfer_2
    Silver-Surfer_2 Posts: 1,850 Forumite
    welshjenni wrote: »
    Well thank you for that! I realise that it ought to have been picked up since purchase, he is good at doing regular checks on oil, tyres etc -but for some reason he hadn't spotted that, and my brother who is with him (and very thorough with that sort of thing), told me it was difficult to tell. I have no idea why.

    Still the main crux of my question was concerning the MOT/advisories/brakes.


    It should have been picked up when they last checked it. Your brother isn't thorough at all. Probably just talks a good job.
  • I think the fact that the brakes were noted as an advisory should have put you on notice that they were on their way out. As others have said, nothing can be removed during an MOT inspection so if the car has a closed type wheel or wheel trim, the brakes can't be readily seen from the outside. Similarly, it can be difficult to have a look at the inner brake pad too.

    If you do decide to go back to the garage, I'd be looking at relying on any PDI they did as part of the Approved Used sale rather than the MOT.
  • forgotmyname
    forgotmyname Posts: 32,929 Forumite
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    I got through a set of pads and badly scored the discs on a brand new car in less than 3000 miles. And a clutch in less than 15,000. Not your usual commuting but a mix od mud and towing, especially when the trailer had sticky brakes also.

    As commented by motorguy, 19 and shredding tyres maybe an expensive hobby..
    The brakes and tyres may have lasted someone that drove gently at low speed and used the gears to slow instead of standing on the throttle and brakes at every set of lights.

    Buy him a book on DIY motoring for Xmas.
    Censorship Reigns Supreme in Troll City...

  • Prothet_of_Doom
    Prothet_of_Doom Posts: 3,267 Forumite
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    I've always thought of the advisory as a "plan to get this done in the next 500 miles" although my wife's Mini had an advisory on brakes last year, and I ignored it, and at this years MOT we had a failure. There was about 1mm of friction material left, and I'm not proud of my tardiness. But that was 5000 miles. She drives like a nun, though.
    8 brake pads and 4 discs and an afternoon on axle stands on the drive and it was all sorted.
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