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Is planning permission needed to convert front of house into a hairdresser?

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  • DiamondLil
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    Well thanks for the tip, but the op won't need to as there will be a hairdresser right next door to his/her friend.
    Oh, and reported as spam.
  • martindow
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    From what the OP has said it looks as if work is going on without PP being applied for. Rather than waiting for a notice to go up on a lamp post, which may will not happen if they are not bothering with seeking planning approval, I would get back to the planning department and say that work to convert part of the house into a shop seems to be in progress.

    It would be best to try to stop this at an early stage.
  • Davesnave
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    So, depending on the Council, it sounds like it is possible that neighbours might never be notified of planning submissions?

    (NB: I'm sure you did tell your neighbours Dave

    So - I guess the next question would be as to whether either the Council concerned or the person that "omitted to publicise it" could be penalised for that??

    There is no legal obligation for councils to notify neighbours individually. End of.

    I didn't tell anyone anything. I put up the planning notice in a prominent place. It was also on the list printed in the local rag, discussed at the parish council meeting and the plans are still fully available on the council's web site.
  • eddddy
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    martindow wrote: »
    From what the OP has said it looks as if work is going on without PP being applied for. Rather than waiting for a notice to go up on a lamp post, which may will not happen if they are not bothering with seeking planning approval, I would get back to the planning department and say that work to convert part of the house into a shop seems to be in progress.

    It would be best to try to stop this at an early stage.


    The neighbour does't need planning consent to make internal alterations to their front room (which it sounds like what is happening).

    However, they do need planning consent to use their front room as a hairdressing salon - whether the room is altered or not.

    So I suspect the planning authority will not be too interested unless/until it starts being used as a hairdressing salon.

    (I suspect the planning authority may not have resources to investigate a report of something that someone might do at some point in the future.)

    However, if the neighbours are making external alterations (e.g. new frontage, new signs etc), they probably need planning consent whether or not they intend to use the property for hairdressing.
  • Freecall
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    Davesnave wrote: »
    There is no legal obligation for councils to notify neighbours individually. End of.

    Davesnave is absolutely correct although most people don't realise it.

    Over the years we have become used to the little planning notices that planning authorities provide as well as the letters to individual neighbours but these have never been a legal requirement.

    The only statutory requirement to consult directly applies to a handful of 'statutory consultees' (Parish Councils and where appropriate, utilities and highways etc.).

    For the general public the requirement to inform/consult is satisfied by the publication of what is known as the 'weekly list' at the authority's offices.

    In practice most go much further than this with notices to ward members, listings in the local press and so on. These are not legal requirements however.

    With the focus now on cost cutting, some authorities no longer send out letters to neighbours or planning notices but this is a local decision.

    On the other side of the equation however is that all authorities now carry planning applications on their websites (not strictly a legal requirement but considered best practice and will mark down the authority's assessment score and ultimately their funding if they do not).

    Therefore there is no chance of a planning authority being penalised for 'omitting to publicise' as suggested.

    Go on-line and have a look is the answer.
  • Crikey!

    I've learnt something new today then. That shocks me that the Councils have no obligation to do that.

    I would think the only way "interested parties" are likely to find out are those letters to them personally and notices on nearby lamp-posts. Very unlikely that most people would read planning notice stuff in local rags or visit the local Council offices.

    I say that as one of the few people that will make a point of sitting there reading the minutes and accounts of my current local Council online (having never bothered with my previous Council - as they operated in a more "standard" way than current one).

    Hmmm...that reminds me - I've not yet checked out the last months Council minutes to see what they were up to.....must do so...
  • wazza2004
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    Thanks for the info. From what I have been told my friend could not see inside the property to see what work is going on. He was told by someone else that apart from being a hairdresser they are also converting part of the house into flats. He will keep an eye out and hopefully catch one of the builders or the owner and ask what is happening.
  • Slinky
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    Somebody I know decided to convert their conservatory into a hair salon. Didn't apply for permission but got dobbed in by a neighbour who spotted the backwash basin, which isn't something you'd normally expect to see in a conservatory!

    She had to apply for retrospective permission, which she got, but now her home is classified as having mixed use.
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  • anto164
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    Yes, PP will be needed to change from domestic to commercial.

    Also, has anyone checked on the deeds of the property to see whether it is allowed?

    For instance, the deeds of our house state that it's not allowed to be used for passing trade unless it is used by a doctor. I am sure that the owners would know if such thing was in place.
  • Slinky wrote: »
    Somebody I know decided to convert their conservatory into a hair salon. Didn't apply for permission but got dobbed in by a neighbour who spotted the backwash basin, which isn't something you'd normally expect to see in a conservatory!

    She had to apply for retrospective permission, which she got, but now her home is classified as having mixed use.

    Out of interest - what will be the difference if a house is classified as "mixed use" (ie where it has previously been residential only)? Does it mean extra Council Tax is payable? Anything else?
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