Council claim land is theirs - do I have a case, or do I give it up?

ChrisH87

What relevance does it have? We are falling into a pointless argument here - I get your point, but having been through what I have, and knowing what I know, I'm fairly confident that the land in question would in no way have an adverse affect on the public in this area if it were to stay as it is - bearing in mind, it's not been accessible to the public for over 30 years and it's such a small piece of land that it would have no impact anyway - it's surrounded by 2500m2 of waste land / concrete slab - and if you venture across the road, there's a football pitch, a park etc - what's 10m2 (if that) tucked away in the corner, against a garden fence?

So, we may aswell leave that debate there, my point has been made and you can either accept it or not - either way, I don't plan on going into it any further ��

ChrisH87

Thanks - they have given me a title number - would that be classed as sufficient evidence of ownership or would they need more ?

ChrisH87

I made a planning application, and it was spotted on a visit they made at the start, if it wasn't for that it would have probably never been noticed.

ChrisH87

The land in question isn't mine - we were told by the previous owners (who were in some way related to the club that used to be on the land) that we could keep this fenced off section - unfortunately it was verbal so I'm guessing that has no grounds...

G_M

ChrisH87 wrote: »

Thanks - they have given me a title number - would that be classed as sufficient evidence of ownership or would they need more ?

Pay £6 and download the Title, and the Plan from the Land Registry here.

if they clearly identify the land as relating to that Title, and the ownership of the Title being the council, then that is proof of their ownership.

You could also read:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/adverse-possession-of-1-unregistered-land-and-2-registered-land

patman99

Obvious question, but if said Council have decided to fence-off this piece of land to which they have no access (except via your land or over a 7ft wall), then how do they intend to bring in and erect the fence?.

If they want to use your land for access, then tell them it will cost them £5,000. This may well be more than the land is worth to them, so they may just let you have the land for the costs of all the legal bits.

LittleMax

patman99 wrote: »

Obvious question, but if said Council have decided to fence-off this piece of land to which they have no access (except via your land or over a 7ft wall), then how do they intend to bring in and erect the fence?.

They will just take down their wall.

davidmcn

patman99 wrote: »

Obvious question, but if said Council have decided to fence-off this piece of land to which they have no access (except via your land or over a 7ft wall), then how do they intend to bring in and erect the fence?.

By removing the wall? I took it from the OP that it's the council's land on the other side, so presumably it's the council's wall.

stator

I doubt they would bother demolishing a wall just to put up a fence, unless the wall is dangerous.

keith969

I would do nothing until your planning application is approved, on the grounds that they may refuse it out of sour grapes otherwise.