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Suspended from work - advice?
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Murphybear wrote: »That's good in theory but surely you can't be clean shaven one day and have a full beard the next:D. There is an "interim stubble phase"
True but a beard could be grown in holiday time.Lost my soulmate so life is empty.
I can bear pain myself, he said softly, but I couldna bear yours. That would take more strength than I have -
Diana Gabaldon, Outlander0 -
Beyond that, I am finished with responding to your insulting posts.
Thank goodness.Your constant reinventing of employment law, and insulting of anyone who doesn't agree with you is becoming wearing. If you wish to endanger your own employment with your ignorance of the law, then be my guest. But when you endanger other peoples employment with it, then you are playing with people's livelihoods.
You should examine your own broken record status, too: "Obey your employer, give in, do not stick up for your rights, conform, become a drone, shave your beard, don't fight discrimination, accept bullying [repeat]"
Nobody here seems to argue how correct they are on every point more than thee.0 -
I would shave, too, but I respect his choice not to. We all have basic liberties and should be protected from tyranny and bullying.
An employer not accepting a certain style of beard but accepting others is draconian in this day and age, especially if the worker is not interacting with the public in a service role.
And if he is being bullied, shaving the beard wont change the situation. A determined bully will simply move to the next tactic.
It would probably be better if you kept off this thread as all you are doing is derailing the OPs original question with your obsession about bullying. Nowhere does the OP mention bullying.
It is possible that companies can enforce rules without it being bullying. I have to wear a uniform I do not like, is this bullying.
I dont suit the colour blue but have to wear it every day, perhaps in your world I should claim it causes me distress so I could claim bullying.
In our local Tesco men with beards are wearing nets. Of course they could be pedantic and refuse in order to protect their feelings of self indignation but at the end of the day if you have a job with rules you dont like you have 2 options. Fight them and become embittered and convinced the world is out to bully you or do as millions of others have to do and accept the rules as part of the job.0 -
Applying rules to one worker, rather than all, is bullying.0
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You should examine your own broken record status
As should you.
Your insistence on using someone else's thread for your own agenda is pretty low.
That person came here for help and you are getting in the way of that process.
You have made your points on this issue - now let someone else have a go.Applying rules to one worker, rather than all, is bullying.
Not entirely true - variances are allowed and expected when looking at roles, grades, personal abilities and qualifications, positive action etc.
Anyway, how does the OP know that no one else has been approached about the same issue? The individual has been sent home so won't know about any further actions. Also, others may no have the same facial hair.
Plus, the fact that the use of beard nets has not been enforced in the past does not mean that the process is not about to change.:hello:0 -
I find it interesting that the OP's partner hasn't worked there for two years but note that it is nearly two years.
Having already face a disciplinary for his sickness record then it may be that the employer is intending to dismiss him.
I also note that the OP's husband spoke to a colleague and am wondering whether this was not allowed according to the terms of his suspension.
Unless the OP's husband has any 'special circumstances' which forces him to wear a beard then I cannot see that this is discrimination and not having worked there for 2 years makes any claim for unfair dismissal highly unlikely.
There is usually more to these things than 'meets the eye' so I agree that a conciliatory approach is the way forward.
Will be interesting to hear what the union says.0 -
I would tell the bod exactly what I think of the hairless bar steward.0
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This forum is totally hilarious.
I have never come across such a ridiculous collection of right-wing biased corporate bully-boys/girls. People come here for genuine advice, and the general assumption is that they are probably twisting the truth and should roll over and obey their employers dictatorial tyranny like good little Gamma, Delta and Epsilon workers.
Raise an opposing argument, and you're accused of not listening and being insulting/disrespectful. It's like a bizarre cross between Brave New World and 1984.
I love it!
I'm going to have fun here.
Power to the people.
Look at me, look at me.
T*t.Pants0 -
This forum is totally hilarious.
I have never come across such a ridiculous collection of right-wing biased corporate bully-boys/girls. People come here for genuine advice, and the general assumption is that they are probably twisting the truth and should roll over and obey their employers dictatorial tyranny like good little Gamma, Delta and Epsilon workers.
Raise an opposing argument, and you're accused of not listening and being insulting/disrespectful. It's like a bizarre cross between Brave New World and 1984.
I love it!
I'm going to have fun here.
Power to the people.
Pity that your fun gets in the way of genuine posters with genuine questions. If you want to troll go start your own thread, if you can think of any topic other than bullying and your own misguided sense of injustice.0
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