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Section 21 have you got the letter?

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Hi,

I received notice to be out on 15 June in April a note was pushed through door. I now have another letter sent recorded delivery and they said we didn't hear from you that you had received your letter now its 15 july can you please let us know you received it.

Whats this about? I don't have to let them know I got it do I, they never answer me about repairs? Why are they insisting on receipt and why have they pushed it back another month cos they didn't hear back?
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  • [Deleted User]
    [Deleted User] Posts: 7,323 Forumite
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    Was it a proper S21? To me it sounds like they don't really know what they are doing.

    Your post is a little confusing. Could you list exactly what you have received and when? Some more full stops would help perhaps.
  • HappyMJ
    HappyMJ Posts: 21,115 Forumite
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    red_devil wrote: »
    Hi,

    I received notice to be out on 15 June in April a note was pushed through door. I now have another letter sent recorded delivery and they said we didn't hear from you that you had received your letter now its 15 july can you please let us know you received it.

    Whats this about? I don't have to let them know I got it do I, they never answer me about repairs? Why are they insisting on receipt and why have they pushed it back another month cos they didn't hear back?

    Probably because they didn't send the initial letter "signed for" or did not get proof of posting or lost the proof of posting. They can't prove they sent the letter....so a new Section 21 notice is required and the 2 months starts again.

    You can mutually agree to leave at any time so if you wanted to leave earlier then that's fine.

    If you don't wish to leave then ignore the letter at your peril but you've got to be prepared to leave.

    If you need a few extra months then any decent landlord will negotiate with mutual agreement an acceptable date for you to leave. It saves on court costs.

    edit: Question - When exactly did you get the letter?
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    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
  • red_devil
    red_devil Posts: 10,793 Forumite
    yes its a proper letter the second one came on Saturday?

    Even if I tell them ive got the letter dosent mean I will go does it?
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  • Pixie5740
    Pixie5740 Posts: 14,515 Forumite
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    No you don't need to tell them but if they or the landlord hand delivered it to you, and then sent another notice recorded delivery they should already know it has been served.

    Did you ever find out if you had been issued a Section 20 back in 1996?

    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5446120
  • booksurr
    booksurr Posts: 3,700 Forumite
    red_devil wrote: »
    yes its a proper letter the second one came on Saturday?

    Even if I tell them i've got the letter dosent mean I will go does it?
    if you know its a proper S21 then presumably you know what it means and therefore when you do or don't need to be "out"

    why not start again with full details of what actual questions you want answered rather than leave us to drag it out of you post by post
  • Pixie5740
    Pixie5740 Posts: 14,515 Forumite
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    red_devil wrote: »

    Even if I tell them ive got the letter dosent mean I will go does it?

    No it doesn't mean that you will, or have to, leave before the notice expires. If it has been issued correctly and if indeed you do have an AST rather than an AT then sooner or later you will be evicted. After notice it's court for an eviction order and if you're still not gone bailiffs can be appointed to physically remove you. You could end up paying the court and bailiff costs.
  • red_devil
    red_devil Posts: 10,793 Forumite
    booksurr wrote: »
    if you know its a proper S21 then presumably you know what it means and therefore when you do or don't need to be "out"

    why not start again with full details of what actual questions you want answered rather than leave us to drag it out of you post by post

    I didn't know I had to reply to the first one! I was suprised to get another one asking me to respond.
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  • HappyMJ
    HappyMJ Posts: 21,115 Forumite
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    red_devil wrote: »
    yes its a proper letter the second one came on Saturday?

    Even if I tell them ive got the letter dosent mean I will go does it?

    Can you leave before the date on the Section 21 notice?

    Even if you don't you will be going at some point soon no matter what you do. You can continue to stay on until the court orders you to go.

    I think it's better to discuss your options with the landlord to avoid unnecessary court costs especially if you can go in a few months but not right now. The landlord does not have to issue court proceedings the day after the notice expires they can wait a few months before starting court action.

    In any case I'd start looking for somewhere else to live.
    red_devil wrote: »
    I didn't know I had to reply to the first one! I was suprised to get another one asking me to respond.

    You don't "have" to respond at all.
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    :p Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S) :p Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money. :p
  • red_devil
    red_devil Posts: 10,793 Forumite
    HappyMJ wrote: »
    Probably because they didn't send the initial letter "signed for" or did not get proof of posting or lost the proof of posting. They can't prove they sent the letter....so a new Section 21 notice is required and the 2 months starts again.

    You can mutually agree to leave at any time so if you wanted to leave earlier then that's fine.

    If you don't wish to leave then ignore the letter at your peril but you've got to be prepared to leave.

    If you need a few extra months then any decent landlord will negotiate with mutual agreement an acceptable date for you to leave. It saves on court costs.

    edit: Question - When exactly did you get the letter?

    they don't talk to me its just letters. Been in the property 20 years. I would expect better you reap what you sew with people.
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  • Pixie5740
    Pixie5740 Posts: 14,515 Forumite
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    You don't have to respond. If they shoved the notice through your letter box then they should know it was served.
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