Ford Fiesta 1.0 Ecoboost

Chucky1234
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Hi all.

Looking into getting a new car, granted it isn't exactly money saving but I really want a new car.

Car in particular is a Fiesta 1.0 Ecoboost, most likely the 123bhp one.

Questions are

1) Has anyone drove this particular Fiesta before? How does the 123bhp compare to the 99bhp one?

2) What is good about this car and what are some things that I should know about? Equally, what isn't so good about this car?

3) What is the cheapest way to own this car? Annual mileage is is likely to be around 12,000, about 20 miles of motorway driving each week day. Found one on a lease deal, £175pm on a 47+3 deal which doesn't look too bad to me but haven't looked in great detail.

My only other car was gifted to me, it was fairly old but good for a first car but have a secure job now and can afford a better car, would appreciate peoples opinions!

Thanks in advance.
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  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    I would never advise a car buyer to focus only on the monthly payments.

    The cheapest way to "own" any car is to buy it cash.

    As others have posted you can sign up for a PCP deal and then settle it within a few weeks and retain the discount.

    If you lease than the car is never yours.

    I have also yet to speak to anybody actually paying the lump sum at the end to own the car they had on a PCP, they usually end up being talked into a new deal, which is exactly what most people do, or hand it back and buy a cheaper car outright

    If there are tax reasons to lease then go for it.

    But I would use broker quotes to negotiate the price down at a dealer or indeed just buy via a broker.

    If you lease you need to consider a GAP policy as if he car is written off you will be liable for the shortfall.

    I would personally save up a decent deposit, maybe £2k, then borrow the balance over 48 months on proper HP.
  • daveyjp
    daveyjp Posts: 13,330 Forumite
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    Before wandering into the local dealer check driverthedeal and other brokers. Fiestas have always been available with deep discounts.

    There are also thousands of used Fiestas out there, start with Ford Direct.
  • agrinnall
    agrinnall Posts: 23,344 Forumite
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    I have a 123bhp Ecoboost Fiesta that I bought new last November. It's similar to my previous 1.25 Fiesta to drive but the extra power (50% more than the old car's 82bhp) obviously makes a difference to performance - I have to keep an eye on the speedo as it's pretty easy to be doing a higher speed than I would have on the old car.

    One thing that I would say is that it's a bit lifeless at low revs in higher gears, you'll probably find you need to drop a gear where you might not have had to in a normally aspirated car. I can't compare it to the 99bhp engine as I never bothered to drive one.
  • Chucky1234
    Chucky1234 Posts: 250 Forumite
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    Thanks all. I'm definitely made up on the car, just need to find the most suitable way to buy it.

    Current car runs out of MOT in August, pretty sure it won't pass and not worth enough to spend any money on so will need to get rid of it before then.

    Would be able to put a £2k deposit down, then £250 monthly payments.

    If I was to buy it, I'd likely go for one 2 or 3 years old rather than brand new.

    Having never owned a car newer than 10 years old, how does a brand new car compare to say a 14 plate in good condition? Probably not much difference right?
  • Strider590
    Strider590 Posts: 11,874 Forumite
    Chucky1234 wrote: »
    Having never owned a car newer than 10 years old, how does a brand new car compare to say a 14 plate in good condition? Probably not much difference right?

    New cars almost always have teething problems, my folks have had new cars from various manufacturers, each has spent atleast 3 months of it's life an a dealership having these issues ironed out. The worst was the RR Evoque, which eventually RR gave up on and offered them another car.
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  • Talc1234
    Talc1234 Posts: 273 Forumite
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    edited 8 May 2016 at 7:31PM
    Chucky1234 wrote: »
    Hi all.

    Looking into getting a new car, granted it isn't exactly money saving but I really want a new car.

    Car in particular is a Fiesta 1.0 Ecoboost, most likely the 123bhp one.

    Questions are

    1) Has anyone drove this particular Fiesta before? How does the 123bhp compare to the 99bhp one?

    2) What is good about this car and what are some things that I should know about? Equally, what isn't so good about this car?

    3) What is the cheapest way to own this car? Annual mileage is is likely to be around 12,000, about 20 miles of motorway driving each week day. Found one on a lease deal, £175pm on a 47+3 deal which doesn't look too bad to me but haven't looked in great detail.

    My only other car was gifted to me, it was fairly old but good for a first car but have a secure job now and can afford a better car, would appreciate peoples opinions!

    Thanks in advance.

    (1)

    I have one. It is terrific! I can't compare it to the 99 hp version, however I know if I had bought the 99 hp one I would wish I had gone for the 123 hp model. It can be cheaply tuned to approx 150 hp

    (2)

    It is a hoot to drive and has a lovely throaty roar. As it is titanium spec it comes with lots of toys, both useful such as automatic headlights, climate control, hill start, wing mirrors that tuck in and bluetooth as well as fun but not useful red mood lighting at night. Fuel economy (for me) is 38 mpg, ok for a petrol car but nothing like advertised. If you travel on the motorway and keep your speed down you can get 50 mpg

    (3)

    I paid £9000 for a two year old with 21000 miles. Funded by a personal loan at £140 pcm
  • hollie.weimeraner
    hollie.weimeraner Posts: 2,152 Forumite
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    edited 8 May 2016 at 7:32PM
    Strider590 wrote: »
    New cars almost always have teething problems, my folks have had new cars from various manufacturers, each has spent atleast 3 months of it's life an a dealership having these issues ironed out. The worst was the RR Evoque, which eventually RR gave up on and offered them another car.

    We have had a number of new cars and apart from a VW Scirocco which had coil pack issues have never had an issue with teething problems.

    Currently I have the 1.0l 123bhp Focus Titanium bought new 2 1/2 years ago and it has been great with no issues other than my front alloys developing a fault after 13 months.

    My wife is a driving instructor and bought a Fiesta Titanium 123 bhp 8 weeks ago and she is thrilled to bits with it apart from someone running into the back of us 4 weeks ago:mad:

    Anyway I bought the Focus from John Darkes Ford dealers at Louth who beat everyone including drive the deal on price at the time.

    The Fiesta was a pre registered one from Evans Halshaw in Walsall and came with 3 miles on the clock (even though it was advertised as 153) and we saved a small fortune on it. (Around £3,500) and it was cheaper than second hand cars with the same spec that were between 12 and 18 months old and I think it was a Ford Direct car.

    To be fair the Fiesta drives better than my Focus but the Focus engine is more flexible than the Fiesta which is simply down to the Focus being 6 speed and the Fiesta being 5.

    My main gripe with either car is that although the warranty is supposedly 3 years it only covers trim items (Wheels included) for 12 months, therefore if you have any issues with these after 12 months you end up paying yourself.

    My wifes previous Toyota covered everything for 5 years and Toyota customer service leaves Ford for dead.

    The cars are great though just don't expect to get anywhere near the advertised mpg;)
  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    Chucky1234 wrote: »
    Thanks all. I'm definitely made up on the car, just need to find the most suitable way to buy it.

    Current car runs out of MOT in August, pretty sure it won't pass and not worth enough to spend any money on so will need to get rid of it before then.

    Would be able to put a £2k deposit down, then £250 monthly payments.

    If I was to buy it, I'd likely go for one 2 or 3 years old rather than brand new.

    Having never owned a car newer than 10 years old, how does a brand new car compare to say a 14 plate in good condition? Probably not much difference right?

    If you buy a brand new car with a decent negotiated discount and pay for it over 3 years then you have manufacturers warranty for the length of the HP

    If you want to pay over 4 years you can extend for another year.

    Having a car with no warranty or an aftermarket warranty on HP is not my idea of risk free.

    And you have the advantage of not having a car that might have been mistreated by a previous owner.
  • bigjl
    bigjl Posts: 6,457 Forumite
    Strider590 wrote: »
    New cars almost always have teething problems, my folks have had new cars from various manufacturers, each has spent atleast 3 months of it's life an a dealership having these issues ironed out. The worst was the RR Evoque, which eventually RR gave up on and offered them another car.

    Many more cars have zero problems than have problems.

    And on the subject of buying nearly new, how many of those have been offloaded by the first owner and bought back by the manufacturer?

    These cars aren't melted down they are fixed and resold.
  • agrinnall
    agrinnall Posts: 23,344 Forumite
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    Strider590 wrote: »
    New cars almost always have teething problems, my folks have had new cars from various manufacturers, each has spent atleast 3 months of it's life an a dealership having these issues ironed out. The worst was the RR Evoque, which eventually RR gave up on and offered them another car.

    They must have been pretty unlucky then because of the 6 new cars I've bought (3 Fords, 1 Toyota, 1 Fiat and 1 Porsche) the only one that had any sort of fault from new was the middle Ford, and that was just the DAB radio needing a bit of tweaking that was sorted in under an hour.
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