Can I extend WiFi to second property?

londonTiger

MethodMon wrote: »

I'll need to look at terms and conditions of my ISP, it wouldn't surprise me if it said something about not allowing others outside my property to access WiFi but not sure. Apart from that it seems way cheaper than my Mum upgrading her data allowance again or installing her own phone line and broadband. Also as mentioned by "I have spokem" a directional antenna may be needed for a better signal, I'll see what kind of signal I can get when I test it.

daftest thing I've read in a while. No there wont be anything like that. They may have something it for personal use only and require you to sign for a business plan if you're providing broadband for public access. But how you do this is entirely up to you.

And it's definately cheaper to use wifi extenders to share the internet than to use mobile internet. COulds even do away with a BT line and use a voip phone as your "landline".

It is technical though and if OP is not competant enough to self-install and get someone outstide to come in and install then it would be cost prohibitive.

Herzlos

MethodMon wrote: »

That's a very good deal similar to what I have at the moment, unfortunatly my Mum doesn't have a landline so it'd be £208.80 extra a year for her. Not bad if you thought you'd use the £100 M&S voucher.

Realistically, you're either going to provide a terrible connection or have to spend a lot of money (and being somewhat conspicuous at the same time). No-one will notice that you're sharing wifi with a neighbour, but if you've got directional dishes at the window it's more obvious.

You can get landlines with unlimited broadband included for about £15-20 a month. Probably less if you can get cable without the phone.

Getting her a landline gives her a quality connection for almost no outlay, and presumably means she can drop her mobile dongle which probably costs her a similar amount anyway.

Edit: Sorry, it's mobile data, not a separate dongle. She might still be able to save some of the money back by dropping her mobile data plan down a bit.

MethodMon

50Twuncle wrote: »

Isn't this - just like sharing an unmetered water supply with all of your neighbours - then splitting the cost between, say a dozen houses ?
Or perhaps allowing 2 of your neighbours to log in to your Sky Go account (you are allowed to log on to 2 seperate devices at the same time) - then watching Sky on a full size TV via an Android TV adapter) - thus reducing your Sky costs by 66%.
..... now there's an idea.................

I think the price for unmetered water is based on size of household, number of bathrooms etc. So not really comparable. I've looked at my ISP's terms and conditions and basically I shouldn't do anything they don't reasonably expect me to do, lol.

ChiefGrasscutter

poppasmurf_bewdley wrote: »

So if you are in the garden on a nice sunny day, with your hands free phone in your pocket, and it rings. When you answer it's your mother. You shout over to your neighbour, who's in his garden, and he happens to be your brother.

"Hey, mum's on the phone. Want a word?" And you pass the phone over the fence to him.

So that's breaking the terms of your landline? :mad:

OK, so I see I have to explain in length why the clause on banning sub-leasing will be there in all ISP contracts for their domestic broadband services.
When they say sub-leasing they mean an agreement to supply say your neighbour with a continual broadband connection piggybacked off yours.

An example:
I'm on a FTTP connection and not one from BT.
I pay £40pm for a 50/50Mbps connection or I can pay £75 and get a 1000/1000 Mbps service.
Now how about I order the 1000/1000Mbps service and then sub-lease this to my neighbours on each side charging them £25pm with a decent bit of Cat6 cabling. 1000Mbps should be enough for us all to share!
So I'm now acting as a re-seller
I get £50 pm income and pay out £75. so its costing each of us £25.

However the ISP is actually getting the connection used 3 times as much as they expect as there are three families using data not one.
and ISP's do actually have to pay for each bit of data by the TerraByte used unlike you and me on unlimited connections.
So the ISP is loosing out on profit/revenue by not having the £80 from each of the neighbours and it's costing them more than expected in data charges for the line.
Get the problem now?
That is why they ban sub-leasing

Lots businesses ban sub-leasing in all sectors of the economy
- Tenancy agreements will ban sub-leasing
- Hire contract for tools ban sub-leasing

esuhl

ChiefGrasscutter wrote: »

OK, so I see I have to explain in length why the clause on banning sub-leasing will be there in all ISP contracts for their domestic broadband services.

No need to explain in length -- I think most people just don't care.

It would be different if you're making a business out of it, but that's not what the OP is proposing.

Alter_ego

I've seen a similar setup using a sky dish as the antenna.

AndyPix

You either need a wireless bridge ..


These work great https://www.senetic.co.uk/product/NSM5?gclid=CJP3vZWOz8wCFQUq0wodEbsIdQ


Or PM me and ill teach you how to crack one of your neighbours wifi's

MethodMon

I suspect a WiFi bridge setup would have been best but it was working out a bit expensive. I decided to buy a Fonera SMIPL off eBay, £35.98. I've plugged this into my home broadband which shares my internet with other FON/BT members. My Mum is close enough to get a good signal from one of her neighbours BT-WiFi hubs and can log into it with my FON membership for free.

It'll do the job for the time being, thanks for all the suggestions.

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth

Would it not be a lot easier, than use the unreliable fon network, by getting a landline with broadband for £17.40 a month, with free uncapped internet. That way, mum can use the BBC play toy to her hearts content, instead of it dropping out, taking an age!
For the mobile, get a PAYG! Simple!

Then again, ...

googler

Blackbeard_of_Perranporth wrote: »

Would it not be a lot easier, than use the unreliable fon network, by getting a landline with broadband for £17.40 a month, with free uncapped internet. That way, mum can use the BBC play toy to her hearts content, instead of it dropping out, taking an age!
For the mobile, get a PAYG! Simple!

Suggested at post #3, and dismissed shortly after as 'not moneysaving enough' ...