Car causing obstruction

Johno100

The_Slithy_Tove wrote: »

It's being mooted to make pavement parking illegal* in the same way as it is in London. It annoys the hell out of me round where I live, as parking with 2 wheels on the pavement only helps to block it for pushchairs, the blind (there's one old lady who gets quite narked about it), etc., and doesn't afford any extra usable width on the road itself.

(*or the decriminalised equivalent)

And what about where the pavements are plenty wide enough to have 2 or even 4 wheels on the pavement and there is still more than sufficent room to get the widest of disabled carriages/buggies/wheelchairs through, do you stll have a problem?

Nodding_Donkey

Johno100 wrote: »

And what about where the pavements are plenty wide enough to have 2 or even 4 wheels on the pavement and there is still more than sufficent room to get the widest of disabled carriages/buggies/wheelchairs through, do you stll have a problem?

Lobby the council to have the road made wider.

Manxman_in_exile

nigelbb - I haven't said the car isn't causing an obstruction. I've accepted from your fellow forum members that it isn't a "legal" obstruction because there is no dropped kerb. But it is causing a physical obstruction (and still is at 7:05pm on a Friday evening after 3 days)


nigelbb - we have no interest in knowing the details and identity of the NHS staff permit holder. I'm ex-nhs and fully understand data protection requirements .We would only complain to the trust in question to let them know that one of their staff does not understand how to park considerately. And do you know what? The trust might want to know about it. They already have an appalling local reputation and the CEO may not want to make local PR any worse that it already is.


Would you be happy to return home to discover that you could not put your car on your own drive? And that car had remained there for, at the moment, three days? No need to answer as presumably you'd be perfectly happy to let them (whoever they are) to do so.


Thanks for the helpful post.

Johno100

Nodding_Donkey wrote: »

Lobby the council to have the road made wider.

When they haven't got the money or inclination to repair potholes that are probably visable from the moon, I think we'd be waiting a very long time before they did that.

Johno100

Manxman_in_exile wrote: »

Would you be happy to return home to discover that you could not put your car on your own drive? And that car had remained there for, at the moment, three days? No need to answer as presumably you'd be perfectly happy to let them (whoever they are) to do so.

If the home owners haven't got a dropped kerb that's the risk they run.

Manxman_in_exile

Nodding Donkey post #33 - I understand what you say but the post you quote is correct. If the pavements are wide enough already, what is the problem?


Why should the council (or whoever - ie the tax payer and council tax payer) spend large amounts of money to make the "road" wider and the pavements narrower when the pavements are not currently obstructed by on-pavement parking? You can get two push-chairs abreast past any car parked on this street's pavements.


The only person at fault here is still blocking our neighbour's access to his drive. And because the neighbour is now having to park on the street/pavement it is making parking congestion worse.

BrentMeister

Manxman_in_exile wrote: »

But it is causing a physical obstruction (and still is at 7:05pm on a Friday evening after 3 days)

A physical obstruction to what? Its not blocking a driveway because there is no dropped kerb.

Manxman_in_exile wrote: »

The only person at fault here is still blocking our neighbour's access to his drive.

Again, your neighbour does not have a driveway as they have no dropped kerb. The car owner has done nothing wrong.

Manxman_in_exile

Johno100 - thanks. I understand now that the absence of a dropped kerb is significant. I will bear that in mind if we buy a property with a drive with no such kerb.


Thanks to everybody who's contributed. Even those I've criticised are food for thought.


But the guy (still) parked across the road is a pi11ock.

Manxman_in_exile

BrentMeister - I understand what you say in that they've done nothing wrong legally, but in my view it is wholly inconsiderate and selfish. It's not something I would do myself because my parents brought me up to respect other people and to be aware of how my actions might adversely affect others. I wouldn't block somebody else's access whether there was a dropped kerb or not. Do unto others etc...(I'm not religious but it's a useful starting point for dealing with those around you. Presumably the offending twit doesn't live here so doesn't care what inconvenience they cause to others).

Johno100

Manxman_in_exile wrote: »

But the guy (still) parked across the road is a pi11ock.

Inconsiderate but not illegal probably best sums it up.