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I have been scammed on gumtree

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  • wealdroam
    wealdroam Posts: 19,180 Forumite
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    Double_V wrote: »
    Yeah and the money was sent to a bank account in the UK can the bank not give you persons address ? (not to you but to police so they can chase them or any other body who deals with these scams )

    The OP could/should report the issue to ActionFraud.

    If enough reports mentioning the same bank account are filed, then it is possible that some action will be taken.
  • lovinituk
    lovinituk Posts: 5,711 Forumite
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    wealdroam wrote: »
    The OP could/should report the issue to ActionFraud.

    If enough reports mentioning the same bank account are filed, then it is possible that some action will be taken.
    Agreed - this is the only real course of action to take.

    Although having used AF myself a few times, I can see why some people don't bother!
  • hollydays
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    Double_V wrote: »
    Yeah and the money was sent to a bank account in the UK can the bank not give you persons address ? (not to you but to police so they can chase them or any other body who deals with these scams )
    The police would need proof a crime has been committed.
    Someone paying someone else money isn't a crime.
  • Hermione_Granger
    Hermione_Granger Posts: 1,418 Forumite
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    hollydays wrote: »
    The police would need proof a crime has been committed


    No they wouldn't.
    All that is required is a statement from a victim or their representative stating that a crime has been committed then a crime reference number will be issued.
    It is the job of the police to then investigate and decide whether or not there has been a crime and if there has, they are the ones who have to find evidence.


    If I make a report saying that my house has been burgled without signs of forced entry, what proof could I provide apart from a statement?
  • hollydays
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    To put it another way, this is a civil matter
  • You could try searching the sellers name on companies house and see if they have ever registered a business. If they have, there will be an address within the online available to view paperwork.
  • George_Michael
    George_Michael Posts: 4,251 Forumite
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    hollydays wrote: »
    To put it another way, this is a civil matter
    Since when has fraud been a civil matter?
    If the "seller" is advertising something for sale and accepting payment with no intention of actually sending goods, it is a criminal and not a civil offence.
  • lovinituk
    lovinituk Posts: 5,711 Forumite
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    It is the job of the police to then investigate and decide whether or not there has been a crime and if there has, they are the ones who have to find evidence
    Good luck with that when it comes to a situation like the OPs.
  • Hermione_Granger
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    I fully agree that the police are extremely unlikely to do anything but this doesn't detract from the fact that saying that they won't do anything without proof of a crime was an incorrect statement.


    It is not the job of victims to provide the proof to the police. It is the job of the police to investigate reports of a crime and to obtain proof if they decide to take the matter further.
  • hollydays
    hollydays Posts: 19,812 Forumite
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    edited 3 May 2016 at 8:02PM
    Yes I shouldn't have said without proof ,in this specific case, I should have said this isn't defined as criminal behaviour. It's contractual.
    All you have here, is one person will say they have posted an item out-the other says they didn't receive it.
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