We’d like to remind Forumites to please avoid political debate on the Forum.

This is to keep it a safe and useful space for MoneySaving discussions. Threads that are – or become – political in nature may be removed in line with the Forum’s rules. Thank you for your understanding.

📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!
The Forum now has a brand new text editor, adding a bunch of handy features to use when creating posts. Read more in our how-to guide

Sold a clocked car. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

13»

Comments

  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    How would a car with 100k be preferable over one with 54k?
    Because condition is far more important than some random number, and because very low mileage cars tend to have a whole raft of problems of their own - as well as pointing to the kind of usage which is very, very bad for cars.

    But, until Joe Average wraps their head around that, we will continue to see cars clocked...
  • marlot
    marlot Posts: 5,015 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    If a typical member of the public would pay more for the car because of a [falsely] claimed low mileage it is iIn breach of the Consumer Protection from Unfair Trading Regulations 2008 (CPRs)

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/284442/oft1008.pdf

    THe same regulations which mean that if you know a car is a write off, you have to inform your consumer.
  • londonTiger
    londonTiger Posts: 4,903 Forumite
    AdrianC wrote: »
    Sorry, we're talking about a 12yr old car?

    If so, then the difference in value between a 100k and a 54k car is pretty meaningless. In fact, many would prefer the higher mileage one. 100k over 12yrs is not high mileage.

    Frankly, I don't believe the "welded on not bolted on" line - if there isn't some chinese whispers there, then they're almost certainly spinning you a line.

    Nobody's asking about whether you were shown the last five MOTs. The current certificate has the mileage AT the last five MOTs printed on it.

    would you pay 2.5k for a 12 year old car that has 100k miles on the clock?
  • AdrianC
    AdrianC Posts: 42,189 Forumite
    Eighth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Would I pay £2,500 for a 12yo Scenic? No, but that's a side issue.

    Whether any 12yo car for any price has 54k or 100k would not affect how much I would pay. Neither is an excessively high mileage. Both are below average. I would be buying entirely on condition, as evidenced both with my own eyes and with the documentation available. If it's a diesel, I'd be more concerned about DPF problems etc with the lower mileage. If it's a likely vehicle for an elderly driver (as a Scenic is, with the higher driving position), I'd be more concerned about premature clutch wear with the lower mileage.
  • SomeRandomGuy
    SomeRandomGuy Posts: 72 Forumite
    edited 29 April 2016 at 11:10AM
    I think the issue is you have had a years worth of motoring out of the car before noticing the issue. The garage may not even be under the same ownership let alone interested in resolving the issue. Even if they are by some miracle willing to refund you they can quite reasonably deduct costs for the year you have had the car and any deterioration in condition.

    Would you really want a partial refund and to have to buy a new car? 100k isn't excessive and presumably the car is / was in good condition otherwise you wouldn't have believed it was low mileage in the first place.

    The repairs are a side issue really, you can expect ongoing maintenance to be necessary with a car of this age. And it does sound like the repair garage are trying to up sell you work that isn't strictly required just yet. Why change a clutch before it starts slipping? You can do many thousands of miles in cars with high biting clutches before it gives up... and in my experience they rarely just fail and leave you totally stranded. That recommendation alone would make me wonder if the other work they want to do is legitimate and fairly priced.

    If the dealer offers you a couple of hundred quid back as a partial refund to take account for the higher mileage (and you get to keep the car) then I think you should bite their hand off.
  • Hey,

    So thought I'd update you all on the outcome. The garage have agreed that the information about the clocking was available to them (it was in the service history book they sold with the car) they agreed to refund the price difference in milage at the time of sale £190 and added £110 as a good will gesture totalling in £300 refund. All tucked away in our car repair/mot account for when/if the clutch goes. Thanks for all of your advice. As I said at the start it was a rushed purchase due to circumstance. It has defiantly been a learning curve for me and my partner.
    Hannah
    emergency fund:£179/ £1000 Uniform/car fund:£
    boys savings £
    Christmas £60 bday £40 holiday £

    Family loan £7000/£5425
    Credit Card 0% £2015.32 eon £435 overdrafts £1500/£1300
  • bigadaj
    bigadaj Posts: 11,531 Forumite
    Ninth Anniversary 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Hey,

    So thought I'd update you all on the outcome. The garage have agreed that the information about the clocking was available to them (it was in the service history book they sold with the car) they agreed to refund the price difference in milage at the time of sale £190 and added £110 as a good will gesture totalling in £300 refund. All tucked away in our car repair/mot account for when/if the clutch goes. Thanks for all of your advice. As I said at the start it was a rushed purchase due to circumstance. It has defiantly been a learning curve for me and my partner.
    Hannah

    Sounds like they have been very fair, a good result and shows that there are good garages out there as well as bad.
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 354.5K Banking & Borrowing
  • 254.4K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 455.5K Spending & Discounts
  • 247.4K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 604.3K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 178.5K Life & Family
  • 261.8K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.1K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.7K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.