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Refund rights on Events

Hi all,

I run public events which I sell tickets to on my website.

These events often require me to pay the venue per person attending.

My question is: if someone books within a few days of the event date and then requests a refund on the day of the event are they entitled to one?

What is the minimum timeframe I have to offer on refunds? What if I endure fees from the venue because the person hasn't attended and has requested a refund?
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  • wealdroam
    wealdroam Posts: 19,180 Forumite
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    ryh wrote: »
    Hi all,

    I run public events which I sell tickets to on my website.

    These events often require me to pay the venue per person attending.

    My question is: if someone books within a few days of the event date and then requests a refund on the day of the event are they entitled to one?

    What is the minimum timeframe I have to offer on refunds? What if I endure fees from the venue because the person hasn't attended and has requested a refund?
    If you are supplying "accommodation, transport of goods, vehicle rental services, catering or services related to leisure activities, if the contract provides for a specific date or period of performance", then the buyer has no statutory right to cancel the booking.

    That's from Regulation 28 of The Consumer Contracts (Information, Cancellation and Additional Charges) Regulations 2013.

    In other words, if you are selling tickets to a 'leisure activity' on a specific date, you do not have to offer any refunds just because the buyer changes their mind.
  • bris
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    No time frame, event tickets are not subject to the CCR's so you don't have to refund them anything.
  • ryh
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    wealdroam wrote: »
    If you are supplying "accommodation, transport of goods, vehicle rental services, catering or services related to leisure activities, if the contract provides for a specific date or period of performance", then the buyer has no statutory right to cancel the booking.

    In other words, if you are selling tickets to a 'leisure activity' on a specific date, you do not have to offer any refunds just because the buyer changes their mind.

    Thanks for your reply. I hire out a venue where people attend for a few hours, with a few snacks (included in the price), walking around the venue is part of the event as well (tour). What would a "specific date or period of performance" be classed as?

    bris wrote: »
    No time frame, event tickets are not subject to the CCR's so you don't have to refund them anything.
    Hi, do you have a link to this being referenced anywhere?
  • SuperHan
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    ryh wrote: »
    Thanks for your reply. I hire out a venue where people attend for a few hours, with a few snacks (included in the price), walking around the venue is part of the event as well (tour). What would a "specific date or period of performance" be classed as?

    Do people have to attend on a specific date, or within a specified period in which the event is performed (which is what specific date or period of performance means - it is literally the everyday meaning of the words)
    Hi, do you have a link to this being referenced anywhere?

    Somebody has quoted the relevant section of the CCR in an earlier post. It's the same bit.
  • ryh
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    SuperHan wrote: »
    Do people have to attend on a specific date, or within a specified period in which the event is performed (which is what specific date or period of performance means - it is literally the everyday meaning of the words)



    Somebody has quoted the relevant section of the CCR in an earlier post. It's the same bit.
    Hi, it's on a certain date and a certain time. Thanks for your help.
  • neilmcl
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    If you were a bit more specific about exactly what these "events" are then we'll be able to help you more.
  • Valli
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    So you're running a business, you're not up to speed on the laws relating to your business and you're asking strangers on a consumer forum for free advice?
    Don't put it DOWN; put it AWAY
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    Thank you Honey Bear
  • ryh
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    Valli wrote: »
    So you're running a business, you're not up to speed on the laws relating to your business and you're asking strangers on a consumer forum for free advice?
    Thank you for your constructive reply, Valli. As a business owner, I am pleased to say that I have dealt with 4 refunds in 6 years of trading with hundreds of events. On all occasions being a compassionate and understanding person, I have refunded these even if I have incurred fees.
  • Valli
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    Well that's good to hear. I do hope, however, you're up to speed on any other regulations with which you, and the venues you are using, need to comply. Your initial question is, to me, slightly worrying.
    Don't put it DOWN; put it AWAY
    "I would like more sisters, that the taking out of one, might not leave such stillness" Emily Dickinson
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    Thank you Honey Bear
  • daytona0
    daytona0 Posts: 2,358 Forumite
    ryh wrote: »
    Thank you for your constructive reply, Valli. As a business owner, I am pleased to say that I have dealt with 4 refunds in 6 years of trading with hundreds of events. On all occasions being a compassionate and understanding person, I have refunded these even if I have incurred fees.

    If you have been compassionate and understanding on the previous occasions, incurring a cost in fees, then why are you now suddenly posing the question? What has changed? Is 4 refunds in 6 years (0.666 refunds a year) so detrimental to your business profits?
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