My GM was suspended - week before my contract ends

duchy

It is unfortunate that the suspension means there is a period of uncertainty until the situation with your superior is resolved.

Had they not got suspended your plans might have gone ahead- however instead everyone is taking a default position until things are made clear and no-one wants to be seen to rock the boat.

You have two choices- accept your secondment has ended and return to your proper job until everything settles down and see what happens - either your boss will be back and if you are as valuable and useful as you think they may take up your suggestion - or they don't come back - and you make the suggestion to their (permanent) replacement..............or you decide you don't think the company is worth waiting for - and resign and take the new job. Only you can decide if it is worth waiting but expecting a stand in to take a decision that they believe is beyond their remit is not realistic.

Unfortunate as the timing is for you -the choices are go back to your contracted job and see how things pan out - or leave because you don't feel able to wait. Only you can decide if the possible promotion with your current company is worth turning down the new job offer for and which company is the better long term prospect for you.

Kirri1997

Thank you for your reply. Normally I would agree with you, but there's even more to the situation...

My acting GM is aware of my new job offer. He actually recommended me two months ago and helped me get this job as it is a good opportunity for me. The job offer would be something I could learn a lot from, and it would help me a lot with my career... But even if it is less money, and a less senior role, I still would rather try get a supervisor position at my current work place.

But I don't want to lose out on both!

Kirri1997

theoretica wrote: »

The question is if he thinks the GM would be any happier if you resigned before he came back.

I would push him to make a decision and accept that it might be subject to ratification if the GM returns. If he refuses and you resign you could mention this in your resignation letter (if you would rather stay than go to the new role) to give them a chance to change their minds.

This is exactly what I have been thinking.. My acting GM would definitely give me the supervisor role of it was up to him. He has encouraged me to go for it and speak with my GM many times but for reasons (that are now gone) I never did.

I am more than happy with him making it just another secondment. Or a one month trial. Anything.. And since I have another offer, I feel like I can't wait and risk losing out on both.

Kirri1997

duchy wrote: »

Had they not got suspended your plans might have gone ahead- however instead everyone is taking a default position until things are made clear and no-one wants to be seen to rock the boat.

You have two choices- accept your secondment has ended and return to your proper job until everything settles down and see what happens - either your boss will be back and if you are as valuable and useful as you think they may take up your suggestion - or they don't come back - and you make the suggestion to their replacement..............or you decide you don't think the company is worth waiting for - and resign and take the new job. Only you can decide if it is worth waiting but expecting a stand in to take a decision that they believe is beyond their remit is not realistic.

Unfortunate as the timing is for you -the choices are go back to your contracted job and see how things pan out - or leave because you don't feel able to wait. Only you can decide if the possible promotion with your current company is worth turning down the new job offer for and which company is the better long term prospect for you.

Thank you for replying.
It all makes sense and sounds very fair to me.

If I didn't have the other job offer I would not mind waiting.. but now I do and I would rather try and push for a temporary supervisor role first. I know my acting GM would give it to me if it was his decision -but he feels it is not. I was hoping to ask for a temporary position, or another secondment as supervisor, might make him feel he could give me this chance.. And I am sure I would do fine in this job and that I'd get to keep it if I'd have to interview for it with the GM who is now away, or his replacement if we will get one so I would give up the other offer for this..

But if I say no to the other job, and my GM never comes back, it will take a long time to replace him! I don't want to wait all this time unfortunately

duchy

So you can wait for a position that may or may not happen ......or you go for the certainty of a job role you feel suits you better .

If your "real job" is as unpalatable as you say then it seems a bit of a no brainer. Of course if you have made your preferences clear it is possible your present employer will step up with the offer you want rather than lose you ......but that's a gamble and you should only hand your notice in if you are prepared for this not to happen.

The other aspect to consider is why your acting GM is suspended -and although you think highly of them clearly his superiors don't or he wouldn't be suspended so saying he thinks you are a good candidate or that you have a really strong work relationship could even work against you. Focus on why you'd be good and less on what they think if you are presenting your case !

Kirri1997 wrote: »

Thank you for replying.
It all makes sense and sounds very fair to me.

If I didn't have the other job offer I would not mind waiting.. but now I do and I would rather try and push for a temporary supervisor role first. I know my acting GM would give it to me if it was his decision -but he feels it is not. I was hoping to ask for a temporary position, or another secondment as supervisor, might make him feel he could give me this chance.. And I am sure I would do fine in this job and that I'd get to keep it if I'd have to interview for it with the GM who is now away, or his replacement if we will get one so I would give up the other offer for this..

But if I say no to the other job, and my GM never comes back, it will take a long time to replace him! I don't want to wait all this time unfortunately

FBaby

I do not wish to stay in my secondment role, and I know my general manager also wanted me to go back to my original work

So really it is not about you not wanting to stay in your secondment role, but want something yet better as an offer to give you a reason to stay with them rather than go for the other job?

If I didn't have the other job offer I would not mind waiting.. but now I do and I would rather try and push for a temporary supervisor role first.

If you want to use the offer of the new job as leverage to get what you want from the company, then that's your choice, but it is their choice too to tell you they are not interested and they are fine seeing you go. Pushing them to take action that only has the purpose of suiting your intentions when they are in the middle of dealing with a possible suspension is in my views not a clever thing to do, but if you think you have nothing to lose doing so, then what else to do but go for it?

Kirri1997

duchy wrote: »

The other aspect to consider is why your acting GM is suspended -and although you think highly of them clearly his superiors don't or he wouldn't be suspended so saying he thinks you are a good candidate or that you have a really strong work relationship could even work against you. Focus on why you'd be good and less on what they think if you are presenting your case !

Sorry, I think you misunderstood me a bit. I doubt my now suspended GM will come back. i am pretty sure he would have offered me the supervisor role, but that doesn't really matter anymore.
The person who is now acting GM in his absence, would definitely give me the role.. If it was up to him. But, I guess he is unsure just in case the other GM comes back and isn't happy with it...

I will push for it. Just a trial, one month to start with and no extra money.

FBaby

I will push for it. Just a trial, one month to start with and no extra money.

What if they agree to that, then decide that you have to go back to your contracted job? Will the other job still be waiting for you?

Kirri1997

FBaby wrote: »

Pushing them to take action that only has the purpose of suiting your intentions when they are in the middle of dealing with a possible suspension is in my views not a clever thing to do, but if you think you have nothing to lose doing so, then what else to do but go for it?

I don't think this only suits my intentions. If I did not get a supervisor role, they really need to hire someone else. This department has been left without a manager for nearly two years. 7 out of 8 team members have started in the past 6 months. We have issues with the department every other day because of lack of training and experience.

And, the GMs temporary replacement agrees with me.. So as I see it I do have a reason to try push for it first before accepting the other job.

Kirri1997

FBaby wrote: »

What if they agree to that, then decide that you have to go back to your contracted job? Will the other job still be waiting for you?

I understand that could happen.. But because I think I have a good chance of it not happening, I am willing to take that risk.