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Electrician to check wiring
manchestermargo
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I have been advised by E.on before I have my meter changed from Economy 10 to a normal rate meter I need to have an electrician check my wiring, to make sure the heating and immersion heater will still work with a standard rate. My question is will any qualified electrician be able to give me y
this info or do I need a specialist. Thanks in advance for any help.
MM
this info or do I need a specialist. Thanks in advance for any help.
MM
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No, any electrician should be able to inspect the wiring downstream of the meter and advise what is needed if you switch to a different metering system.
By a 'standard rate' I assume you mean an E7 meter, and that your heating is by NSH's, as a single rate meter will be incredibly expensive if you still use an immersion and NSH's on it.No free lunch, and no free laptop0 -
Thanks for that Macman. I am planning to have the meter changed to a single rate meter. My flat no longer has NSH although I still have an immersion heater. I have monitered this and on average use only 3 units each night. What are your thoughts. Thanks MM0
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manchestermargo wrote: »Thanks for that Macman. I am planning to have the meter changed to a single rate meter. My flat no longer has NSH although I still have an immersion heater. I have monitered this and on average use only 3 units each night. What are your thoughts. Thanks MM
If you are still using an immersion heater, what do you use for heating?
The probability is that on a one-rate 24/7 meter, your immersion heater will still work. If it doesn't, it will be a very simple job to re-connect. So you don't need to pay for a check beforehand .0 -
manchestermargo wrote: »I have been advised by E.on before I have my meter changed from Economy 10 to a normal rate meter I need to have an electrician check my wiring, to make sure the heating and immersion heater will still work with a standard rate. My question is will any qualified electrician be able to give me y
this info or do I need a specialist. Thanks in advance for any help.
MM
Yes E10 is non standard but a cynic would say that the energy companies tell their customers that they need to pay for an 'electrician to check the wiring' to frighten them off from changing away from this extortionate tariff.
The supplier already knows if their customer has a single multi-rate meter or a dual MPAN meter set-up, so why do they advise that their customer needs to get their wiring checked when they already know!0 -
Yes E10 is non standard but a cynic would say that the energy companies tell their customers that they need to pay for an 'electrician to check the wiring' to frighten them off from changing away from this extortionate tariff.
The supplier already knows if their customer has a single multi-rate meter or a dual MPAN meter set-up, so why do they advise that their customer needs to get their wiring checked when they already know!
Because they know what their 'side of the tails' is, but have no idea how your side of the tails is wired. Some are all electricity for 10 hours, other legacy 'white meter' and Scottish Weather watch internal CU's for water and space heating only, and exclude all other electricity.
So no ,,,,, they don't "already know".Disclaimer : Everything I write on this forum is my opinion. I try to be an even-handed poster and accept that you at times may not agree with these opinions or how I choose to express them, this is not my problem. The Disabled : If years cannot be added to their lives, at least life can be added to their years - Alf Morris - ℜ0 -
Yes E10 is non standard but a cynic would say that the energy companies tell their customers that they need to pay for an 'electrician to check the wiring' to frighten them off from changing away from this extortionate tariff.
The supplier already knows if their customer has a single multi-rate meter or a dual MPAN meter set-up, so why do they advise that their customer needs to get their wiring checked when they already know!
I can assure you there is no cynicism of behalf of the suppliers involved , at least not in regards suggesting a customer seeks expert electical advice.
This board is littered with examples of those who were on a legacy tariff and attempted to switch supplier. Attempts to do so (with existing metering) invariably end in tears.
As metering for most legacy tariffs is complex, so is the wiring (and possibly the suitability of appliances too), so I too would support the supplier's suggestion in getting expert advice before changing the meter.
Legacy tariffs are not 'extortionate' and if used as intended can actually often represent very good vcalue for money.
No suggestion of a particular electrical expert is ised, so there can be no suggestion the supplier is going to benefit themselves by making such a suggestion.
I would suggest the customer uses a locally recommended one (but one who has some experience of these things). The customer can even go and get some quotes first from various sources for such a survey.0 -
Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »So no ,,,,, they don't "already know".
The current supplier obviously does know about their metering set-up.This board is littered with examples of those who were on a legacy tariff and attempted to switch supplier. Attempts to do so (with existing metering) invariably end in tears.
As metering for most legacy tariffs is complex, so is the wiring (and possibly the suitability of appliances too), so I too would support the supplier's suggestion in getting expert advice before changing the meter.
This thread is about an eon customer wanting to change to a standard tariff, not about switching suppliers and not generalisations about the possible E10 metering variations due to it being a b@stardised E7 tariff.0 -
The current supplier obviously does know about their metering set-up.
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This thread is about an eon customer wanting to change to a standard tariff, not about switching suppliers and not generalisations about the possible E10 metering variations due to it being a b@stardised E7 tariff.
They do .... 'metering' .. .. not domestic wiring distribution, this side of their tails, the electricity supplier is clueless. No supplier knows, would want to know, or would enter a dialogue on single or multiple legacy & exotic circuits and modern standards for earth bonding arrangements.
Many exotic tariffs and their domestic wiring arrangements still exist and are available particularly in Scotland. These twin electric meter and twin consumer unit set up
arrangements still exist against [about 10% of the whole of the UK] suppliers will, only because GOV force suppliers to maintain them.Disclaimer : Everything I write on this forum is my opinion. I try to be an even-handed poster and accept that you at times may not agree with these opinions or how I choose to express them, this is not my problem. The Disabled : If years cannot be added to their lives, at least life can be added to their years - Alf Morris - ℜ0 -
Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »They do .... 'metering' .. .. not domestic wiring distribution, this side of their tails, the electricity supplier is clueless. No supplier knows, would want to know, or would enter a dialogue on single or multiple legacy & exotic circuits and modern standards for earth bonding arrangements.
Many exotic tariffs and their domestic wiring arrangements still exist and are available particularly in Scotland. These twin electric meter and twin consumer unit set up
arrangements still exist against [about 10% of the whole of the UK] suppliers will, only because GOV force suppliers to maintain them.
You are making a mountains out of a mole hills, there are no exotic circuits.
Either one feed to all circuits or two feeds
a) for heating
b) for everything else.
If a seperate white/E10 meter exists, then the circuits that this meter supplies is simply connected together with the other circuits and connected to a new meter. This is no different in practice from changing from an E7 multi-rate meter to a single rate meter.
Footyguy continually posts that E10 switches invarably end in tears but this is not always the case, as some E10 set-ups supply everything at the two rates and this thread is about your current supplier changing your metering to single rate metering.
It is easy to visually check the metering without employing an electrician.
The Government are no longer forcing suppliers to maintain these tariffs e.g. eon tariff withdrawal here
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5441146
Suppliers sub contract meter changes and there is no reason why two circuits cannot quickly and easily be connected together using a Henley block to the new meter if this is required.0 -
you are making a mountains out of a mole hills, there are no exotic circuits.
Either one feed to all circuits or two feeds
a) for heating
b) for everything else.
If a seperate white/e10 meter exists, then the circuits that this meter supplies is simply connected together with the other circuits and connected to a new meter. This is no different in practice from changing from an e7 multi-rate meter to a single rate meter.
Footyguy continually posts that e10 switches invarably end in tears but this is not always the case, as some e10 set-ups supply everything at the two rates and this thread is about your current supplier changing your metering to single rate metering.
It is easy to visually check the metering without employing an electrician.
The government are no longer forcing suppliers to maintain these tariffs e.g. Eon tariff withdrawal here
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5441146
suppliers sub contract meter changes and there is no reason why two circuits cannot quickly and easily be connected together using a henley block to the new meter if this is required.
dup,.............Disclaimer : Everything I write on this forum is my opinion. I try to be an even-handed poster and accept that you at times may not agree with these opinions or how I choose to express them, this is not my problem. The Disabled : If years cannot be added to their lives, at least life can be added to their years - Alf Morris - ℜ0
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