Can Delivery Trucks park anywhere ?

Silver-Surfer_2

londonTiger wrote: »

Some people are so self centred that they can't see anyone else's point of view. The lorry has tens of thousands of pounds worth of goods to unload. Weighing several tonnes.

The lorry parking there just causes a very minor inconvenince to other road users in that everyone passing by will need to drive slowly and carefully to ensure no pedestrian and about to cross your path.

The driver can stop on a double yellow or single yellow without kerb markings for up to 45 mins as long as the traffic warden observes loading & unloading taking place every 5 mins.

Yellow lines on kerbs which are tangental to road lines indiciate no loading. zig-zag lines are specifically used where it is unsafe to load & park. Red lines are used where it is forbidden to load or stop.

The only difference between a single yellow and double yellow is single yellow applies during controlled parking hours, double yellow applies 24 hours.

Very interesting and at what point can they ignore rule 242 of the Highway Code?

londonTiger

Silver-Surfer wrote: »

Very interesting and at what point can they ignore rule 242 of the Highway Code?

it's not really a rule because it does not define what is a dangerous position. It could be argued that dangerous position was intended to mean leaving your vehicle 1ft away from the edge of the cliff. Or on a hard shoulder taking a leak in the bushes.

The authorities obviously dont deem this to be a dangerous position as they have not marked the kerb as no loading nor zigzag marked where not even a disabled badge holder can park.

Also it's not technically "leaving" the vehicle if the driver is unloading and the vehicle is constantly at eye shot of the driver so he hasn't left the vehicle.

Finally it's a common occurrence for vehicles to be so close to crossings. Case in point, when you're driving opposite direction to a heavily congested traffic. There may be cars immediately before and after a zebra crossing. Or in a filtered traffic stop where you have straight/left turn traffic and right turn traffic signalled independantly and if you have the green light but your adjacent lane has red you should approach these with extreme care and watch for pedestrians trying to cross.

The lorry is in no different position than than the two scenarios above.

Silver-Surfer_2

londonTiger wrote: »

it's not really a rule because it does not define what is a dangerous position. It could be argued that dangerous position was intended to mean leaving your vehicle 1ft away from the edge of the cliff. Or on a hard shoulder taking a leak in the bushes.

The authorities obviously dont deem this to be a dangerous position as they have not marked the kerb as no loading nor zigzag marked where not even a disabled badge holder can park.

Also it's not technically "leaving" the vehicle if the driver is unloading and the vehicle is constantly at eye shot of the driver so he hasn't left the vehicle.

Failed again.

Stopping on a hard shoulder is an offence and a dangerous position doesn't need to be marked.

So if he's no longer driving what's he doing? He's left it at rest.

londonTiger

Silver-Surfer wrote: »

Failed again.

Stopping on a hard shoulder is an offence and a dangerous position doesn't need to be marked.

So if he's no longer driving what's he doing? He's left it at rest.

Lets not make silly ad hominem arguments. If authorities felt it was a dangerous spot they would have marked it with the no loading, zigzag or red lines.

Hard shoulder is a hard shoulder because it is marked as a hard shoulder using solid white line. See the pattern? It's marked on the road.

The pencil pushers at the council are thorough with these, when they mark a road as double yellow they do it with the full knowledge that it will be used for loading and unloading goods. So they are tacitly approving loading & unloading.

A traffic warden or police wont waste they time trying to enforce an extremely subjective rule and interpret it in a far reaching way when it's no more dangerous than a filtered traffic stop.

Silver-Surfer_2

londonTiger wrote: »

Lets not make silly ad hominem arguments. If authorities felt it was a dangerous spot they would have marked it with the no loading, zigzag or red lines.

Hard shoulder is a hard shoulder because it is marked as a hard shoulder using solid white line. See the pattern? It's marked on the road.

The pencil pushers at the council are thorough with these, when they mark a road as double yellow they do it with the full knowledge that it will be used for loading and unloading goods. So they are tacitly approving loading & unloading.

A traffic warden or police wont waste they time trying to enforce an extremely subjective rule and interpret it in a far reaching way when it's no more dangerous than a filtered traffic stop.

So by you logic it's safe to park in lane 2 of the M1.

There's no yellow, red or solid white lines either side of that lane. Common sense would tell you it's dangerous to do it.

scaredofdebt

Try parking in lane 2 of the M1 and see what happens.

See the difference?

:beer:

Car_54

londonTiger wrote: »

Lets not make silly ad hominem arguments. If authorities felt it was a dangerous spot they would have marked it with the no loading, zigzag or red lines.

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Zigzag lines are for specific locations: ped crossings (white) and schools (yellow). They can't be used at junctions.

Also, rule 242 arguably may not apply, but 243 certainly does:

"DO NOT stop or park opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space."

AdrianC

Car_54 wrote: »

Zigzag lines are for specific locations: ped crossings (white) and schools (yellow). They can't be used at junctions.

Also, rule 242 arguably may not apply, but 243 certainly does:

"DO NOT stop or park opposite or within 10 metres (32 feet) of a junction, except in an authorised parking space."

Note that it does not say MUST NOT, and there is no reference to any specific law - therefore it is not illegal, just ill-advised.