Welding work required for failed MOT

Rubidium

londonTiger wrote: »

Well you should wait for OP to get back with some estimates before you open your trap.

It is likely to cost tens of pounds rather than your ridiculous assumption of hundreds of pounds. The MOT station would likely give recommendations where the work could be done and at approximately what cost in that locality.

Regular readers know from your previous posts that you could write your motoring/engineering knowledge on the back of a postage stamp!

EdGasket

You can buy a cheap gasless MIG welder for not much over £100 and fix it. Failing that I don't see the cost being much more than £100 if its only a patch; I've had complete new sills for that money though that was some time ago and when there were more welders around. With rust being less of a problem now there are fewer welders around now.

patman99

The last time I needed a car cill welded, I got a few quotes from local garages then asked in my local pub if anyone knew of a person who could weld.

As it was, there was a chap who worked as a welder in a factory and he welded on a new cover-cill for less than 25% of the costs of having a garage do it.

He also advised that (at the time) welding patches on cills was an MOT failure, hence using an over-cill.

s_b

t reg = old
the only way to cost this is to see it
to be fair it could quite probably be uneconomical once assessment has been done
this cannot be done through an internet medium
it needs a man with a prodder as this area also incorporates where inner sill for seat belt will affix

Nodding_Donkey

londonTiger wrote: »

Chances are this rust is a problem ith the car design caused by the tyres kicking up water onto the bottom of the sill.

Do you make this up as you go along?

Maybe manufacturers should design their cars better and put the cills on the roof to keep them away from those pesky wheels.

Nobbie1967

Nodding_Donkey wrote: »

Do you make this up as you go along?

Maybe manufacturers should design their cars better and put the cills on the roof to keep them away from those pesky wheels.

They're hardly making this up, the underside of cars get hammered and rust is common there in older cars as a result. If an older car has rust bad enough to require welding for an MOT on one side, it's quite likely that the other side will need welding in the near future.

As regards cost, twenty years ago welding was cheap to do, but there are now tight H&S regulations to avoid fires which drives up the cost. A reputable garage will charge like a wounded rhino for welding, but you can always go backstreet cash in hand and hope they know what they're doing.

For a car of that age, once welding is needed, I'd scrap it as the chances are that more welding is going to be needed at subsequent MOTs.

Nodding_Donkey

You do realise that rot in cills usually starts from the inside don't you?

Herzlos

Sure, it's likely to need more welding in future to keep going, but you might easily get another year out of it by fixing the current MOT failure - though you'd probably want someone to have a proper look at it first. It's not an automatic write off in any case.

Nobbie1967

wookie66 wrote: »

Any idea how much it costs to get some welding done on my Honda Civic (T reg) which failed on its mot

The welding is required under the passenger door side sill area adjacent to where the jack is placed to lift vehicle

The rusted area is approx 4 inch sq

Also any recommended welders/repairers in the West London / Heathrow area?

Given the age of vehicle need to determine whether its cost effective to get this work done or scrap vehicle

Cheers

Found this on a forum which might be relevant to the OPs situation.

"90% of the hondas i have cut apart over the last 10 years all have rusty as hell sills and most come a few weeks after getting an MOT on them.

the sole reason for them passing is they are completely covered by plastic sill covers+ sideskirts, and if you read the MOT rules an mot tester cannot remove a plastic sideskirt/cover to inspect under them. its why this guy has got an mot. most civics on the road will have rusty sills with holes in them

mot rust failures on hondas are when it gets pretty bad and the floor pan side of the sills start rotting (the front and rear seatbelt mountings are all within 30cm of pretty much all the floor pan). those are mot fails because they are not covered by the skirt/sill cover.

box sections on cars (especially the sills!) rot quick, around 400% faster than the outside, never fill them with expanding foam because this just adds to the problem. just find someone that can weld and give them some beer money."

Rubidium

Nobbie1967 wrote: »

just find someone that can weld and give them some beer money."

It doesn't say give them three sack fulls of cash!