PCN issued

1111x

Hi pappa golf

Yes, there was signage displayed - but has the ticket not contradicted itself anyway?

Also, if the Mgmt Co do not have a parking contractor, is the invoice not invalid?

I will send them a copy as well for more advice

Coupon-mad

1111x wrote: »

The PPC is ES Parking Ltd.

I also have the following from the management company who own the complex the ticket was issued on 'You’ll have to check to see where the ticket came from. We definitely haven’t put any parking enforcement on the site so we are not able to assist.'

I would email the DVLA to complain and say you can't also email a complaint to the IPC because they don't let you just email:

david.dunford@dvla.gsi.gov.uk

Look below, the IPC insist on your registering for an 'account' before they will 'let' you complain. WHY IS THIS 'OK'?:

https://www.theipc.info/make-a-complaint

So start with the DVLA and show them the email from the Management company and say you are reporting the fact this operator is apparently issuing PCNs where they have zero landowner authority as far as you can tell. If they reply telling you to email the IPC, explain why you can't and complain too, that this makes them unapproachable to consumers.

pappa_golf

I think photos of the signage should be sent to the management Co , clearly showing the area (shops/houses etc) and ask them again , "can you confirm that you have not hired "scum and Co" "


await their reply before the DVLA , as the management Co might be thinking of different land

1111x

Thanks all,

Currently with Mngmt Co to confirm whether or not contractors were hired to manage marked area from map. Will await update and proceed to DVLA with official complaint.

1111x

Hi all,

I have been taking the 'ignore debt collector' advice but have now received a "FORMAL LETTER OF CLAIM" and after reading many other posts, it appears the consensus is that these SHOULD be responded too.

I am also aware their is something called a 'pre action conduct' which I am almost certain the so-called solicitors have not followed despite claiming they have....

I am hoping somebody can give me some advice / template / links on how to proceed.

Of course my 14 days is about half due to the postman so keen to reply asap if that's the best course of action!

I have tried to request info etc several times and been ignored by the PPC so I want to continue to seek information and prove I had been trying to establish facts and the PPC / debt collector / solicitor are scaremongering and have no basis for the 'debt'

I have attached a redacted copy of the letter (sorry for the poor quality & lack of IMG codes due to being a new user)- many thanks

https://

anonmgur.com?dfec09b82064c73def081d2a6e5dfd14.png

beamerguy

WRIGHT HASSALL

https://anonmgur.com?dfec09b82064c73def081d2a6e5dfd14.png

Wright Hassall yet again thinking they are judge and jury.

Seeking for a money judgement order ???
After 14 days they WILL review the matter and MAY issue a court claim.

It is indeed "hide and seek"

Then they go on to say the usual scary rubbish assuming they have won:eek:

This is a begging letter giving you the opportunity to pay.

What these ???? forget to say is:

1: They have to win first.
2: If you lost then you have up to 28 days to pay without any further penalty to you ..... if you pay, no CCJ, no attachment of earnings, no warrant of control application.

It's a solicitor spouting this rubbish that puts the SRA into disrepute
REPORT THEM, The SRA already know about WH

https://www.sra.org.uk/home/home.page

1111x

absolutely! It's very stressful and frustrating when you are just an 'ordinary' person though....

I will surmise everything win or lose when it's over..

but would you recommend i reply to this? Do you think I should draw on the fact they haven't complied with the PD?

Umkomaas

What did the DVLA say when you complained to them as per advice from Coupon-mad in post #13? I would have thought that complaint would have produced something significant.

Coupon-mad

Umkomaas wrote: »

What did the DVLA say when you complained to them as per advice from Coupon-mad? I would have thought that complaint would have produced something significant.

Good point.

Regarding the letter, I think that WH's misleading words are very similar to those used by BW Legal. I would recommend that this OP reads LoveNorfolk's thread, which shows an example of a SRA complaint (as posted last week by pappa golf).

In this case you can't complain to the CSA (debt collector regulatory body) because Wright Hassall are not members but they are Solicitors so the SRA complaint is a must, so take a look at the recent post by pappa golf in LoveNorfolk's thread.*

You must robustly respond to that letter. Earlier you said this (below) so include this sort of thing in your reply to WH:

As they have failed to answer any questions with regards to who has contracted them for the provision of their service, justification of the sum etc, no actual proof of evidence, as well as the contradictory information...a reasonable decision can not be made in respect of paying the charge...

...the ticket information is not the same as their rejection letter and their failure to provide this will allow me to reasonably assume that the ticket has been cancelled as I cannot make an informed decision as the keeper

* no links no pack drill, I never link threads that are easy to locate by hopping around the forum...better for newbies to use the forum, read back, search & hop about confidently as you will need to be able to do that if you get a court claim.

1111x

Hi both,

thanks for your replies...

I did not proceed with the DVLA due to the fact that the Mngmt company say they have instructed the PPC to enforce tickets on the land.. (albeit, there is still conflicting info on whether or not the "particular spot" the vehicle was on should be managed by the PPC.... i have a fairly strong suggestion from the management co that they shouldn't - but I'm still not 100% on the actual landowner... if the management co have instructed them, they possibly have justification so the DVLA route was sort of put on hold)

I have tried on two separate occasions to ask the ppc for basic info (basically what the PD says, so i can make an informed decision) and have been ignored. I also offered to use an ADR service and was ignored.

As you can see by the WH letter, they have still provided nothing

I will read the post by pappa golf about the SRA complaint, and take this avenue..

but with regards to responding to WH, still unsure whether to do this?
I'm currently drafting a response as per zzzLazyDaisy's post for an acknowledgement letter so they can't just issue proceedings and blame me for non compliance... is this the right thing to do to cover myself?