PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

"Forced" to surrender tenancy earlier

jpmnteiro
jpmnteiro Posts: 15 Forumite
edited 9 April 2016 at 12:42PM in House buying, renting & selling
Hey all,

A quick question regarding tenancy.

We have given our landlord (through the EA) our two months notice. We have to leave the property by 13 of May.

The EA in the meantime found a prospective tenant who could only move if we could move out by two weeks before our term date. The EA enquired us about it and we said, in an informal conversation, that maybe we could do it given that some other external factors aligned.

Long story short, external factors did not align (i.e, completion yet to happen) and we have/want to carry the tenancy to it's term.

Now onto the problem, the EA has the other tenant ready to move in two weeks before we surrender (we found out because lovely [Service Provider] called me yesterday saying there was a request for a new contract and if they could start cancelling our contract.

Moral factors aside (I do feel genuinely bad for the other tenant), does the EA/LL have any legal standing to makes us leave before our due date (13 of May, which was agreed by both parties when notice was served). Bear in mind that there's nothing verbal or written from us stating that yes, we'd leave two weeks before 13 of May.

Your input is much appreciated.

JM

Edit:

I already notified the EA of the situation but they haven't replied yet, hence my post, trying to preemptively prepare for any argument they may throw our way.
«134

Comments

  • marksoton
    marksoton Posts: 17,516 Forumite
    Nope..........
  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,715 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Of course you can't for "forced" to surrender early.

    Who has given what notice (eg you gave notice to quit to landlord) to whom, please?

    There is nothing to stop to asking agent who incentive (£xxxxx...) they are offering for you to leave early (if you have anywhere else to go to..). And if the offer isn't satisfactory (I'd want at least a grand) then politely & calmly decline his kind proposal.

    Just because some clown of an agent has signed up a new tenant is agent's problem. Just as if landlord sells the place & neglected to evict you early does not mean your tenancy ended nor does not require you to leave: Even if new tenant/owner is outside with huge removal van, screaming husband & 3 bonkers kids.

    Until a tenancy is lawfully ended it is your home, your property: You can exclude who you wish unless landlord has court order saying otherwise.

    Artful (Landlord, since 2000)
  • jpmnteiro
    jpmnteiro Posts: 15 Forumite
    Of course you can't for "forced" to surrender early.

    Who has given what notice (eg you gave notice to quit to landlord) to whom, please?

    There is nothing to stop to asking agent who incentive (£xxxxx...) they are offering for you to leave early (if you have anywhere else to go to..). And if the offer isn't satisfactory (I'd want at least a grand) then politely & calmly decline his kind proposal.

    Just because some clown of an agent has signed up a new tenant is agent's problem. Just as if landlord sells the place & neglected to evict you early does not mean your tenancy ended nor does not require you to leave: Even if new tenant/owner is outside with huge removal van, screaming husband & 3 bonkers kids.

    Until a tenancy is lawfully ended it is your home, your property: You can exclude who you wish unless landlord has court order saying otherwise.

    Artful (Landlord, since 2000)

    I've given my notice to quit to the EA (they are acting on behalf of the LL as stated in the tenancy agreement).

    The incentive, they said, was to be half month's rent (£500ish) as we'd be surrendering two weeks before the end of the contract. I rather pay that half month of rent than having to move all of our stuff around to god knows where (no family close by, would have to use storage units and b&b's for accommodation).

    Thank
  • marksoton
    marksoton Posts: 17,516 Forumite
    jpmnteiro wrote: »

    The incentive, they said, was to be half month's rent as we'd be surrendering two weeks before the end of the contract.

    :rotfl:

    That's no incentive! If you did it you'd have no beneficial use of the property so why should you pay those weeks!

    This lot sound like an absolute load of clowns.

    Either they up the offer to make it worth your while or you stay put.
  • ViolaLass
    ViolaLass Posts: 5,764 Forumite
    So their compensation suggestion was that you wouldn't have to pay the rent that you wouldn't have to pay anyway (because the new tenant would have to pay it). Gosh, how generous.
  • jpmnteiro
    jpmnteiro Posts: 15 Forumite
    @ViolaLass and @marksoton I guess that's what you get for being a bit naive, but I shall change my ways.

    Anyway, a bit more at ease now, now if only completion would come through *sigh* but that's for another post.

    Thanks for the input all, it's appreciated.
  • marksoton
    marksoton Posts: 17,516 Forumite
    jpmnteiro wrote: »
    @ViolaLass and @marksoton I guess that's what you get for being a bit naive, but I shall change my ways.

    Anyway, a bit more at ease now, now if only completion would come through *sigh* but that's for another post.

    Thanks for the input all, it's appreciated.

    Oh i wasn't making a comment on you. Simply the brass neck of the agent for making out they were doing you a favour...
  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,715 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    I join you in hoping completion happens on time: If not (Distress for Rent Act 1737 s18..) you'd be liable for double rent. Unlikely but possible.

    I'd not communicate any further with agent & let them stew in their mess...
  • Cakeguts
    Cakeguts Posts: 7,627 Forumite
    Sixth Anniversary 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    You don't have to surrender early. But you do have to move out when your contract ends even if you haven't completed on the new house.
  • theartfullodger
    theartfullodger Posts: 15,715 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Name Dropper
    Cakeguts wrote: »
    You don't have to surrender early. But you do have to move out when your contract ends even if you haven't completed on the new house.
    Not unless the landlord gets a possession order & bailiffs are walking up the front path.


    Still covered by PfE Act 1977
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.8K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.5K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.1K Life & Family
  • 257.8K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.