PLEASE READ BEFORE POSTING: Hello Forumites! In order to help keep the Forum a useful, safe and friendly place for our users, discussions around non-MoneySaving matters are not permitted per the Forum rules. While we understand that mentioning house prices may sometimes be relevant to a user's specific MoneySaving situation, we ask that you please avoid veering into broad, general debates about the market, the economy and politics, as these can unfortunately lead to abusive or hateful behaviour. Threads that are found to have derailed into wider discussions may be removed. Users who repeatedly disregard this may have their Forum account banned. Please also avoid posting personally identifiable information, including links to your own online property listing which may reveal your address. Thank you for your understanding.
📨 Have you signed up to the Forum's new Email Digest yet? Get a selection of trending threads sent straight to your inbox daily, weekly or monthly!

Selling property and Capital Gains Tax

Hi

I wonder if anyone can clarify the rules for me and give me some advice..

As far as I understand it, capital gains tax does not have to be paid ifhouse is your own home.

I think I heard somewhere that if renting a house out which you have had as your home in the past that there is a period of time of rental that Cgt is not paid..and maybe that it is pro rata after that period. In other words, the life of time you have owned it and percentage of time as home v rental is percentage allocated as cgt free.
Is that correct?

I hsve a property I can no longer access after an accident and has been left empty since. Crunch decision time is looming as to whether do repairs necessary to rent out v selling the property. There are other factors involved that will also influence which way the decision goes, but I would like to know where I stand with CGT depending on either situation. I lived in it for 12 years.

Thanks

Comments

  • booksurr
    booksurr Posts: 3,700 Forumite
    edited 7 April 2016 at 5:20PM
    here is a worked example which covers the key principles...
    http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=69071134&postcount=6

    a) if I read your post correctly as things stand at the moment you would get PRR for the time you actually lived there + the final 18 months of owenership. The rest would be liable

    b) if you were to now let it out you would: PRR as above plus you would also get LR for the period it is let, the latter subject to the 40k cap

    in both a) and b) you would get the personal allowance as well
  • emmb
    emmb Posts: 71 Forumite
    Hi
    Thanks sooo much to booksurr for replying and for the link. :-)
    It is very comprehensive and gives soo much info'.

    Am not familiar with the terms..
    Private resudent relief and letting relief nor what the personal allowance applies to. Am guessing these are just allowances to give grace before tax has to be paid. Not sure why there is a personal allowance aswell as the other two but hey, not knocking it. Wonder how long before the government close those down though. :-(

    Good to know you get 18months grace before cgt is a consideration!
    Also, good to see that member in the example had zero cgt at that time or for time in the future depending on values etc.

    Will take me some working out based on the example whether delaying getting it tananted goes against me or is a benefit...?
    Tbh I have so much other stuff going on, medically etc, the hassles involved in making the property my priority are too much, but was getting concerned might be doing my future financial situation more harm by leaving it til I can deal with it. Time flies as they say. Already been 3 n half years! Grateful for any comments?

    It does raise another couple of queries..

    Term Main Residence. Strictly speaking as it stands I am renting elsewhere so guessing that is my main residenceHowever, I do pay utility bills at my ownproperty (limited to an outside light being on etc but still utility bills and in my name) and I still pay council tax there. Might it still be considered my home?

    My other query is Regarding the Private Residence Relief:
    If you bought then sold your own home but did not 'reinvest' all the money in a new home ie in case of downsizing, would you have to pay cgt on profit above the allowance?
    I know it is a different scenario to mine but just to understand way the things work, as I had thought don't pay cgt on your own home by which I mean. The one you live in or main residence I guess is the term. I mean, that is why people downsize generally, to free up cash

    Cheers
  • silvercar
    silvercar Posts: 49,676 Ambassador
    Part of the Furniture 10,000 Posts Academoney Grad Name Dropper
    Term Main Residence. Strictly speaking as it stands I am renting elsewhere so guessing that is my main residenceHowever, I do pay utility bills at my ownproperty (limited to an outside light being on etc but still utility bills and in my name) and I still pay council tax there. Might it still be considered my home?

    Generally speaking your main residence is where you live. In your case it would be the property you are renting.
    My other query is Regarding the Private Residence Relief:
    If you bought then sold your own home but did not 'reinvest' all the money in a new home ie in case of downsizing, would you have to pay cgt on profit above the allowance?
    I know it is a different scenario to mine but just to understand way the things work, as I had thought don't pay cgt on your own home by which I mean. The one you live in or main residence I guess is the term. I mean, that is why people downsize generally, to free up cash

    Irrelevant. What you do with the money doesn't influence the CGT calculation. If it was your main home for all the time you owned it or any time it wasn't your main home is covered by the various allowances, there is no CGT to pay.
    I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.
  • kinger101
    kinger101 Posts: 6,573 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Name Dropper
    edited 10 April 2016 at 10:22AM
    emmb wrote: »
    ..
    Term Main Residence. Strictly speaking as it stands I am renting elsewhere so guessing that is my main residenceHowever, I do pay utility bills at my ownproperty (limited to an outside light being on etc but still utility bills and in my name) and I still pay council tax there. Might it still be considered my home?

    No. You don't live it in so it's not your main residence any more.
    emmb wrote: »
    ..
    My other query is Regarding the Private Residence Relief:
    If you bought then sold your own home but did not 'reinvest' all the money in a new home ie in case of downsizing, would you have to pay cgt on profit above the allowance?

    I don't know why you thought this. I don't understand what allowance you are referring to. There will either be some CGT to pay or their won't. I think perhaps you've been reading (and misunderstanding) rules on what is called rollover relief on business assets, which are not relevant here.
    emmb wrote: »
    .

    I know it is a different scenario to mine but just to understand way the things work, as I had thought don't pay cgt on your own home by which I mean. The one you live in or main residence I guess is the term. I mean, that is why people downsize generally, to free up cash

    Cheers

    Just plug your numbers into booksuur's worked example or employ an accountant to do so. I don't know why you've gone off on a tangent when you've essentially been given the answer.
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
  • booksurr
    booksurr Posts: 3,700 Forumite
    emmb wrote: »
    Am not familiar with the terms..
    Private resudent relief and letting relief nor what the personal allowance applies to. Am guessing these are just allowances to give grace before tax has to be paid. Not sure why there is a personal allowance aswell as the other two but hey, not knocking it. Wonder how long before the government close those down though. :
    it is disappointing that you haven't done even the most basic of google searches then isn't it. As for Govt policy I take it you haven't noticed that actually the Tories are in favour of reducing tax on capital, not increasing it.

    Read pages 1,2,3 & 5 at least....
    https://www.gov.uk/capital-gains-tax/overview
This discussion has been closed.
Meet your Ambassadors

🚀 Getting Started

Hi new member!

Our Getting Started Guide will help you get the most out of the Forum

Categories

  • All Categories
  • 351.3K Banking & Borrowing
  • 253.2K Reduce Debt & Boost Income
  • 453.8K Spending & Discounts
  • 244.3K Work, Benefits & Business
  • 599.5K Mortgages, Homes & Bills
  • 177.1K Life & Family
  • 257.8K Travel & Transport
  • 1.5M Hobbies & Leisure
  • 16.2K Discuss & Feedback
  • 37.6K Read-Only Boards

Is this how you want to be seen?

We see you are using a default avatar. It takes only a few seconds to pick a picture.