London Congestion Zone - LPG converted cars

JohnBravo

Hi All,
I have looked in here and it looks like LPG converted cars are no longer exempt or do not get a discount.
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/congestion-charge/discounts-and-exemptions

Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thank you
Best regards,

bigjl

JohnBravo wrote: »

Hi All,
I have looked in here and it looks like LPG converted cars are no longer exempt or do not get a discount.
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/congestion-charge/discounts-and-exemptions

Please correct me if I am wrong.
Thank you
Best regards,

The discounts for LPG stopped several years ago.

I believe the discounts for Prius has also stopped, at one point any car with co2 of under 100 g/km got free congestion charge, I believe that limit is now 85 g/km, with the lowest Prius emissions being 89 g/km if I remember correctly.

Basically TFL set the limit below the emissions of every car apart from plug in EVs or plug in Hybrids. I am not sure about the Prius Plug In emissions.

AdrianC

JohnBravo wrote: »

Hi All,
I have looked in here and it looks like LPG converted cars are no longer exempt or do not get a discount.
https://tfl.gov.uk/modes/driving/congestion-charge/discounts-and-exemptions

Please correct me if I am wrong.

If it's not on that list, there's no exemption.

bod1467

bigjl wrote: »

I believe that limit is now 85 g/km

The quoted link actually says 75 g/km for ULED.

bigjl

bod1467 wrote: »

The quoted link actually says 75 g/km for ULED.

Is it as low as that now? Haven't kept up to date as rarely go into the CC zone during charging hours and when I did my vehicle was either a PHV or Ambulance and so exempt.

TFL change things with the wind to placate the cycling lobby and environmentalists.

It was awkward when the Buses when on strike and the Emissions on Oxford St where the lowest they had been for decades!

forgotmyname

Why is it 75g/km and not per mile?

EU at it again?

bigjl

forgotmyname wrote: »

Why is it 75g/km and not per mile?

EU at it again?

Let's be perfectly honest most of Central London vehicle pollution is caused by Buses.

As proven during the strike a few months ago.

AdrianC

forgotmyname wrote: »

Why is it 75g/km and not per mile?

EU at it again?

<rolls eyes>
4.25oz/mile, if you prefer.

But this country IS metricated, with several explicit exemptions. Miles are only a legal exemption when it comes to distance signage and car instrumentation. And that's a UK law thing which predates the EU - the UK was attempting to metricate fully by the mid '70s, but failed miserably, solely due to people who refuse to accept it.

There is only one other country in the world (ignoring a couple of irrelevant tiddlers) that isn't fully metricated. Bless 'em.

bod1467

AdrianC wrote: »

There is only one other country in the world (ignoring a couple of irrelevant tiddlers) that isn't fully metricated. Bless 'em.

And even they can't measure a gallon correctly.

iolanthe07

And even they can't measure a gallon correctly.

Actually, they do. It was Britain in the past that changed the pint from 16 fluid ounces to 20 fluid ounces, thus making our gallon 20% bigger than the US gallon. It is the US that has been consistent

AdrianC

iolanthe07 wrote: »

And even they can't measure a gallon correctly.

Actually, they do. It was Britain in the past that changed the pint from 16 fluid ounces to 20 fluid ounces, thus making our gallon 20% bigger than the US gallon. It is the US that has been consistent

Not quite as simple as that.

There used to be three sizes of gallon in use in the UK - the corn or Winchester gallon (a little smaller than the current imperial gallon), the wine gallon (now the US gallon), and the ale gallon (a little bigger than the current imperial gallon). The ale gallon was adopted as the standard in 1824, based on a definition relating it to the volume of a certain weight of water at a certain temperature. This was refined slightly in 1963, leading to a slight shrinkage to the current result. Canada, the Caribbean and various other ex-Empire places stayed with the UK definition, but have now completed metrication, so their definition is redundant.

The US just stuck with the old wine gallon, the odd one out of the three in size, and the only country ever to use it as the standard.