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Peeling paint.

If you have read my other threads you will know that my house is the one that Jack built!!

Anyway my ensuite ( which all my other posts have been about) has a smooth plastered cealing with spotlights in it. I've just found out that's the spots are not waterproof ( as they should be for a bathroom) and need changing - I assume I'll need an electrician for this?

But first the paint is flaking off in a big way on the cealing and needs to be taken back to the plaster as far as I can tell. From research it does not appear that the plaster has been sealed / left to fully dry before it was painted. What is the best way to 1) get rid of the peeling paint and 2) redo it properly!

Thanks in advance
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  • keith969
    keith969 Posts: 1,575 Forumite
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    Removing flaking paint from a ceiling is not easy, you can scrape off the loose bits and only find when you repaint that it bubbles over existing paint. And trying to sand it will create lots of dust and take forever. In the past I've got a plasterer in to skim ceilings and if they're any good they will prepare the surface so it sticks.
    For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple and wrong.
  • kinger101
    kinger101 Posts: 6,784 Forumite
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    edited 26 March 2016 at 12:45PM
    Er.....did you do electrical work in the bathroom yourself. Probably not a great idea, as it's almost always notifiable work. And water + electricity isn't a good mix.

    Normally, fresh plaster is first painted over with a "mist coat", which is diluted trade emulsion (about one third to a half water). If it's a bathroom, I'd then use a sealant primer as the next coat.

    For taking it off, I'd try a long-handled scraper if it's that flaky.

    If you use any powertools in the bathroom, make sure you are on an RCD protected circuit, or get a plug adapter.
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
  • Rileybaby
    Rileybaby Posts: 240 Forumite
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    No I didn't do the electrical work myself in the bathroom ( or any work to be honest! It's a mess & I just want to get it sorted if possible sooner rather than later.

    Would you all recommend having the cealing re-skimmed??
  • kinger101
    kinger101 Posts: 6,784 Forumite
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    Rileybaby wrote: »
    No I didn't do the electrical work myself in the bathroom ( or any work to be honest! It's a mess & I just want to get it sorted if possible sooner rather than later.

    Would you all recommend having the cealing re-skimmed??

    I depends what it looks like after you've removed the paint.
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
  • Rileybaby
    Rileybaby Posts: 240 Forumite
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    As daft as this sounds not all of the pain is peeling & I think I'm going to struggle to get the bits that aren't peeling off the Cealing. I want it to look neat & tidy ( basically how it should) I was thinking of getting the loose stuff off with a scraper & then sanding down any edges then filling ( polyfiller) where I've taken the paint from but I'm not sure if this would be the best way.
  • brandydog
    brandydog Posts: 90 Forumite
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    Rileybaby do as you said on your post and if you want you could lining paper on cealing
  • keith969
    keith969 Posts: 1,575 Forumite
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    Rileybaby wrote: »
    As daft as this sounds not all of the pain is peeling & I think I'm going to struggle to get the bits that aren't peeling off the Cealing. I want it to look neat & tidy ( basically how it should) I was thinking of getting the loose stuff off with a scraper & then sanding down any edges then filling ( polyfiller) where I've taken the paint from but I'm not sure if this would be the best way.

    Having tried this before all I can say is that sanding walls or ceilings is to be avoided if possible, it takes a long time and the dust gets everywhere, plus it's near impossible to get rid of the 'edges' between painted and non-painted areas. And filling with polyfilla just means more sanding.
    For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple and wrong.
  • Rileybaby
    Rileybaby Posts: 240 Forumite
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    keith969 wrote: »
    Having tried this before all I can say is that sanding walls or ceilings is to be avoided if possible, it takes a long time and the dust gets everywhere, plus it's near impossible to get rid of the 'edges' between painted and non-painted areas. And filling with polyfilla just means more sanding.

    What's the best way then Keith969 any ideas?
  • kinger101
    kinger101 Posts: 6,784 Forumite
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    If you can't get it all off, it's probably a re-skim.
    "Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance" - Confucius
  • Rileybaby
    Rileybaby Posts: 240 Forumite
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    Thought so - thank you kinger101
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