A second degree, advise needed urgently

former_student

Edit: Dundee do offer an accelerated (two year) LLB.[/quote]

Is it classified the same as a three year one, thanks for this information by the way it could be very important.

utterbar

I would ensure that:

1. If the person wants to practise law they know which jurisdiction they intend to practise in. A degree in Scottish law may not count as a qualifying law degree in England and Wales and vice-versa.

2. The actual degree is recognised as a qualifying law degree by either the Law Society / Bar Council (for England and Wales) and the Scottish Law Society / Faculty of Advocates (for Scotland). The University itself should be able to tell you this, ideally the course description should state that the degree is qualifying.

N.b. - getting a law degree is the cheap part of qualifying as a lawyer!

dmg24

Sorry, my mistake - it is still three years. I am thinking of the English system, where the full course would take three years, so accelerated would be two. Sorry ...

Does your friend have to study at Dundee? Does she want to do English Law or Scots Law?

If it is Scots Law that your friend is practising, there is an alternative method of training. Looks interesting ...

http://www.lawscot.org.uk/training/exams.aspx

I still don't understand why the fees are so expensive. Is it because of the different system in Scotland? Scots don't pay any fees for their first degree, do they?

dmg24

http://www.saas.gov.uk/student_support/special_circumstances/previous_assistance.htm#fees

We will not usually pay your tuition fees if you have previously been on a full-time higher education course at HNC, HND, degree or equivalent level, and had help from public funds to do so.
If you are studying in Scotland , and you are returning after a break in study of one year or more, you may be eligible to apply for some of your fees. If your college or university are charging you more than the standard £1,225 fee you can apply to us to pay the difference between the normal standard tuition fee of £1,225 and the higher tuition fee of £1,735 (£2,760 for medicine).

This seems to imply that the standard fee in Scotland is between £1225 and £1735?

More information here too ...

http://www.saas.gov.uk/_forms/previous_study_leaflet.pdf

ixwood

Is she Peter Pan?

Why would you take on yet more education/debt, when you're already in debt? Unless it's a specilised course that more or less assures a particular well paid job in the future, it seems crazy.

Why doesn't she join the real world and get a job?

dmg24

ixwood wrote: »

Is she Peter Pan?

Why would you take on yet more education/debt, when you're already in debt? Unless it's a specilised course that more or less assures a particular well paid job in the future, it seems crazy.

Why doesn't she join the real world and get a job?

Without knowing the full circumstances, that is a harsh comment to make. The OP has asked for information, not judgment.

laurenced

Hi guys

I am starting the Diploma in Legal Practice at Edinburgh later this month, and it costs £4,500 for the year. I've applied to a couple of trusts for help with the tuition fees, but they have declined. I'm getting a CDL to cover some living costs, and my mum is helping me out with the tuition until I have a decent salary and can pay her back.

I'm really interested to see what you guys can suggest for funding -- I've read through MMS's Education Grant article and visited the websites, but frankly they are pretty obtuse publications and give very little precise information as to amounts/eligibility/chances/etc. It's pretty disheartening.

Everyone thinks lawyers are loaded -- well I can categorically state that the trainee ones certainly aren't, and since I'm planning to practice Criminal law, it doesn't look like that's going to change for me for quite some time!

Cheers

-laurence

dmg24

laurenced wrote: »

Hi guys

I am starting the Diploma in Legal Practice at Edinburgh later this month, and it costs £4,500 for the year. I've applied to a couple of trusts for help with the tuition fees, but they have declined. I'm getting a CDL to cover some living costs, and my mum is helping me out with the tuition until I have a decent salary and can pay her back.

I'm really interested to see what you guys can suggest for funding -- I've read through MMS's Education Grant article and visited the websites, but frankly they are pretty obtuse publications and give very little precise information as to amounts/eligibility/chances/etc. It's pretty disheartening.

Everyone thinks lawyers are loaded -- well I can categorically state that the trainee ones certainly aren't, and since I'm planning to practice Criminal law, it doesn't look like that's going to change for me for quite some time!

Cheers

-laurence

Hi Laurence,

Is the Diploma the Scots equivalent of the LPC? I can only speak for the LPC, but the only funding I am aware of is the Disabled Students Allowance, or sponsorship from a potential employer.

Best of luck! x

laurenced

dmg24 wrote: »

Hi Laurence,

Is the Diploma the Scots equivalent of the LPC? I can only speak for the LPC, but the only funding I am aware of is the Disabled Students Allowance, or sponsorship from a potential employer.

Best of luck! x

Yep they are equivalents. Alas, I am not disabled(!) and criminal firms/the Crown do not fund prospective trainees. Oh well, more debt it is then!

dmg24

laurenced wrote: »

Yep they are equivalents. Alas, I am not disabled(!) and criminal firms/the Crown do not fund prospective trainees. Oh well, more debt it is then!

It'll be worth it in the end ... just might take a good few years to get to that point! x