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Interview Under Caution-ESA
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Don't be stupid and stop trying to frighten people.
1558 "frightened people" in 2014 were subjected to arrestment of data by RIPA .
I suggest you spend an hour on google, what authority can will and does do with RIPA will open your eyes and sit you back in your chair.
They can, they will and they do.I do Contracts, all day every day.0 -
Marktheshark wrote: »1558 "frightened people" in 2014 were subjected to arrestment of data by RIPA .
I suggest you spend an hour on google, what authority can will and does do with RIPA will open your eyes and sit you back in your chair.
They can, they will and they do.
Not that I don't believe you but could you please put up a link to the above...
All I can find is information specifically stating the DWP have not got legalistic power to use RIPA to conduct surveillance of a 'suspect's email, internet or phone usage.0 -
Marktheshark wrote: »If they are using RIPA they can also intercept your internet traffic and e-mails including this post.
They are not using RIPA for a working and claiming on ESA with an employer that has given wage details. Even if they did have RIPA it would not include Internet traffic. That level of intrusion is not and never would be authorised - it would not be proportionate. RIPA is the power of last resort.
Stop being so alarmist. The DWP do not use RIPA as a matter of course. Not least as then do not have the resources to do so. I do the job day in day out and have for over 20 years, so I think I'm qualified to comment0 -
Not that I don't believe you but could you please put up a link to the above...
All I can find is information specifically stating the DWP have not got legalistic power to use RIPA to conduct surveillance of a 'suspect's email, internet or phone usage.
DWP have access to RIPA in strictly defined situations and not all types of surveillance can be used (this is a matter of public record and nothing at all restricted),0 -
Millerblade wrote: »Hello,
My wife has an IUC for supposed working while claiming ESA. She has asked a solicitor to go with her. We don't know when the date is yet.
Assuming my wife is found guilty but doesn't go to prison. Will her employer be told? Will she lose her job?
Thanks
To answer your question.
Prison is unusual for benefit fraud- it can happen but is usually for bigger cases, organised fraud or other aggravating factors. Depending on the overpayment, your wife may be offered administrative penalty as an alternative to court. Or she may have such a good reason that no further action is taken.
Yes the case could go in the papers, but if it's just straightforward working and nothing unusual about the case then it's probably not interesting enough to go in the papers.
As others have said, her employer has probably been contacted for earnings info. So they probably do know of the investigation. What they do in the event of a conviction is very much down to the employer and what she does for a living.0 -
Millerblade wrote: »My wife has an IUC for supposed working while claiming ESA.
Will her employer be told? Will she lose her job?
As she obviously is working (rather than 'supposed working'), why didn't she cancel her ESA claim?0 -
I don't suppose the OP will be back to update us...0
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Marktheshark wrote: »1558 "frightened people" in 2014 were subjected to arrestment of data by RIPA ..
Indeed. Over matters of serious crime and things that affect the economic wellbeing of the country (RIPA 2000, S.5(3)) and using warrants personally signed by the Home Secretary (S.7(1)) following an application personally by the senior figures in GCHQ, MI5, MI6, the chief constable of a police force and, er, almost no-one else (S.6(2)). Do you think that those people might have slightly more on their mind right now than someone fiddling their benefits?0
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