Fraudulant use of Motability car?

System

DVLA not DWP.

DWP have even less of an idea about the law than Motability does.

Vehicle Tax exemption
The vehicle must be registered in the disabled person’s name or their nominated driver’s name. It must only be used for the disabled person’s personal needs. It can’t be used by the nominated driver for their own personal use.

Unlike Motability's idea of benefitting the person, the law states that it must be personal needs.

sheramber

A few years ago a colleague's husband got a Motability car. He didnlt drive very much
She drove the car to work and he drove home. He drove back to pick her up at finishing time and she drove home.

When he was admitted to hospital for good Motability told her she could keep the car to use to visit him in hospital but not for other use.

sarahswan1

!!!!!! wrote: »

DVLA not DWP.

DWP have even less of an idea about the law than Motability does.



Unlike Motability's idea of benefitting the person, the law states that it must be personal needs.

So even if I don't work, I'm still breaking the law if I use the car to go and collect a prescription for me rather than him? And I didn't tell Motability to ring DWP, they did that. I agree the law should be changed if Motability are telling people they can do something that isn't strictly within the letter of the law, but that takes time. Time sadly my husband doesn't have.

System

sarahswan1 wrote: »

So even if I don't work, I'm still breaking the law if I use the car to go and collect a prescription for me rather than him? And I didn't tell Motability to ring DWP, they did that. I agree the law should be changed if Motability are telling people they can do something that isn't strictly within the letter of the law, but that takes time. Time sadly my husband doesn't have.

Unfortunately the example you give isn't even covered by Motability's 'benefit' idea. There is no benefit either directly or indirectly to the person with you picking up a prescription for yourself.

I agree the law should be clarified either by ensuring that Motability give correct, legal advice rather than their thoughts on what it should be or the law is changed.

This may sound callous but is not intended to be but I'm sorry the argument that time is not on your husbands does not make ignoring the law OK

sarahswan1

!!!!!! wrote: »

Unfortunately the example you give isn't even covered by Motability's 'benefit' idea. There is no benefit either directly or indirectly to the person with you picking up a prescription for yourself.

I agree the law should be clarified either by ensuring that Motability give correct, legal advice rather than their thoughts on what it should be or the law is changed.

This may sound callous but is not intended to be but I'm sorry the argument that time is not on your husbands does not make ignoring the law OK

So on that basis, anyone doing anything in a Motability car that is not absolutely for the disabled person is breaking the law? That then makes it impossible to have the car and stay within the law. It is impossible for us to manage without the car, so I will simply have to break the law. I shall have to live with that.

GlasweJen

If you think about another tax break for disabled people, VAT on aids/adaptions.

If we want a new settee we can claim a VAT exemption on a riser-recliner due to my disability. Now my OH gets a bit of back ache every now and then and quite likes sitting on my chair which is usually alright as he will move to a normal seat when I want on the sofa.

Would it be alright for us to claim VAT relief on 2 chairs because I'll indirectly benefit from him not using my chair to relax on?

System

sarahswan1 wrote: »

So on that basis, anyone doing anything in a Motability car that is not absolutely for the disabled person is breaking the law?

Correct

sarahswan1 wrote: »

That then makes it impossible to have the car and stay within the law. It is impossible for us to manage without the car, so I will simply have to break the law. I shall have to live with that.

Or you get a car for YOUR personal needs

Confuseddot

Something like this

http://www.offers.peugeot.co.uk/just-add-fuel/new-208-5-door

marleyboy

Originally Posted by sarahswan1
That then makes it impossible to have the car and stay within the law. It is impossible for us to manage without the car, so I will simply have to break the law. I shall have to live with that.

Look at the car as NOT being yours, but as belonging to the person with the disability. As above, if you want a car for your OWN benefits, buy yourself one.

A neighbour approaching me and saying "It is impossible for us to manage without a car.", is hardly going to make me say "Here.....Have mine". Your predicament is it is for the person with the disability, not for the designated driver.

System

If partner did not have a disability you would still need to fund a car for your work and personal use so nothing changes. Car cost is covered by DLA, fuel costs are either going to be for the disability car OR yours on a per trip basis, never both at the same time.