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No invitation to renew tenancy
willow23_2
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Hi all
Having read through lots of threads here I think I know my legal rights, but I just want to make sure that I "actually" understand them.
I'm in a rented house and and just coming up to the end of my fifth year living here. Usually, around one to two months before the AST is due for renewal, I get an email from the letting agents asking if I intend to stay with confirmation that the LL is happy to renew and what the new rental price is.
This year.......tumbleweed..... At the last property inspection in January I pointed out the things that needed addressing including a damp problem in the attic bedroom that had apparently been sorted last year by roofing contractors but that clearly hasn't been rectified as the ceiling is wet around the chimney areas (I've pointed this out before the visit too). It did dry out during the summer but once we had a prolonged period of rain the wet came back.
Two weeks after the inspection I was given the proper notice periods for the agents/contractors to visit and there have been two EA's around to do valuations and two contractors in to do quotes for full refurbishments. Obviously the LL is entitled to sell their property (because that's what seems to be playing out here) but I've been told nothing, and when I contacted the letting agents six weeks ago and a week ago to ask about renewing my tenancy as I did not intend to give notice the replies I got were, "Unfortunately your landlord has not notified us of how they wish to proceed." My tenancy is due to end on 15th April.
As I said, I've not given notice and not been issued with notice. My next step is to contact the agency next week and let them know that as I understand it, at the end of my AST my tenancy will become a statutory periodic tenancy with the same rental cost and same rights as the AST until either I or the landlord gives the correct notice period (two months for the LL and one month for me). This is correct isn't it?
Having read through lots of threads here I think I know my legal rights, but I just want to make sure that I "actually" understand them.
I'm in a rented house and and just coming up to the end of my fifth year living here. Usually, around one to two months before the AST is due for renewal, I get an email from the letting agents asking if I intend to stay with confirmation that the LL is happy to renew and what the new rental price is.
This year.......tumbleweed..... At the last property inspection in January I pointed out the things that needed addressing including a damp problem in the attic bedroom that had apparently been sorted last year by roofing contractors but that clearly hasn't been rectified as the ceiling is wet around the chimney areas (I've pointed this out before the visit too). It did dry out during the summer but once we had a prolonged period of rain the wet came back.
Two weeks after the inspection I was given the proper notice periods for the agents/contractors to visit and there have been two EA's around to do valuations and two contractors in to do quotes for full refurbishments. Obviously the LL is entitled to sell their property (because that's what seems to be playing out here) but I've been told nothing, and when I contacted the letting agents six weeks ago and a week ago to ask about renewing my tenancy as I did not intend to give notice the replies I got were, "Unfortunately your landlord has not notified us of how they wish to proceed." My tenancy is due to end on 15th April.
As I said, I've not given notice and not been issued with notice. My next step is to contact the agency next week and let them know that as I understand it, at the end of my AST my tenancy will become a statutory periodic tenancy with the same rental cost and same rights as the AST until either I or the landlord gives the correct notice period (two months for the LL and one month for me). This is correct isn't it?
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You're correct, but you don't have to notify them of it. Just stay put if you so wish0
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A section 21 notice is a minimum of 2 months but that does not end the tenancy. If you're still there it carries on.
I wouldn't contact the agency. You don't need to tell them anything.:footie:
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Having two estate agents round to do a valuation may mean the Landlords has mortgaged to a new mortgage lender.
Full refurbishment or repairs to the roof you have asked for ?0 -
Having two estate agents round to do a valuation may mean the Landlords has mortgaged to a new mortgage lender.
Full refurbishment or repairs to the roof you have asked for ?
Ah, d'you know what that hadn't even occurred to me. Usually the letting agents get in touch after I've pointed out any repair issues to say that they're looking to release funds (as happened previously when the roof/chimneys were "fixed"). It's just odd that there's been no renewal notice as they do like to charge a fee. Hopefully my worrying has been for nothing then.Debt:None
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Why contact them?
You want to stay, so stay.
If the LL wants you to leave, you'll get a S21.
No S21? You stay.0 -
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To ease your mind, can you get in touch with the LL---by letter, address supplied by LR if no other way?I am a LandLord,(under review) so there!:p0
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It's just my nature I suppose.
What's that? Wasting money on tenancy renewal fees.....
Don't renew a tenancy ever again. It doesn't give either party any real advantage at all. You can't end the tenancy mid term but the landlord can end a fixed term by using a Section 8 notice and relying on a Mandatory ground for possession. From a landlord's point of view a fixed term gives a potential void risk as a tenant can just leave on the last day of the fixed term without giving any notice. If as a landlord you're not ready for that the property will be empty for at least some weeks whilst you market the property for let.:footie:
Regular savers earn 6% interest (HSBC, First Direct, M&S)
Loans cost 2.9% per year (Nationwide) = FREE money.
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Don't renew a tenancy ever again. It doesn't give either party any real advantage at all.
some times there is no other option but having to do this dance!
If the LL doesn't want to renew the AST, sure they have to issue a S21, they may miss a deadline once or twice but eventually you have to pack and go. Unless the OP needs to buy time and possibly don't need references maybes but otherwise OP may as well start looking for a new place and go!EU expat working in London0 -
always_sunny wrote: »....If the LL doesn't want to renew the AST, sure they have to issue a S21,..../QUOTE]Errr... no....
I always let tenants roll on to periodic tenancies, have only ever signed a new fixed term once. That gives me & tenant more flexibility should either wish to end the tenancy.0
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