The New Fat Scotland 'Thanks for all the Fish' Thread.

IveSeenTheLight

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Well you went a bit quiet on those extra 100,000 votes.

There's a bit of rounding going on, but for clarity, it appears it was an additional 107,221 votes

IveSeenTheLight

sss555s wrote: »

Well well well. Lets break it down a bit further...



No wonder they are clinging on as hard as they can.

https://www.uktradeinfo.com/Statistics/RTS/Pages/default.aspx

Interesting, Scotland appears to be the only net exporter

sss555s

A_Pict_In_A_Past_Life wrote: »

Re: Above in red
Oh aye, on what planet?
It's very clear who needs Specsavers now.

2017 local elections, SNP vote share 32.3%
610454 1st pref. votes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_local_elections,_2017

2016 elections, SNP vote share 46.5%
1,059,897 votes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Parliament_election,_2016

2015 election, SNP vote share 50%
1,454,436 votes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_2015_(Scotland)

2012 local elections, SNP vote share 32.33%
503,233 1st pef votes (but note: as %of votes was approximately the same as 2017 result.)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_local_elections,_2012

2011 parliamentary elections, SNP vote share 45.4%
902,915 votes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_Parliament_election,_2011

You forgot to include the X factor and BGT results.

You can only compare a local election with a local election and the SNP massively increased their lead over second place as well as picking up more seats (all be it a fair % of the new seats). I did mean seats and not votes so apologies for that confusion.
There was no falling off a cliff except for Labour.

A_Pict_In_A_Past_Life

Shakethedisease wrote: »

Well you went a bit quiet on those extra 100,000 votes. Hey ho, let's hope all those poll watchers and subsample watchers from the full UK based polls are starting to pick up an anti-Tory backlash as there was in 2010. Here's hoping.



Not the most reliable of course subsamples but probably just as reliable as votes shares in an STV voting system is.

Ok if you want to put your spin on polls, try this.

The Scottish picture is always harder to piece together when in the midst of a UK election campaign, all parties have a bad habit of extrapolating favourable data from tiny Scottish sub-samples on national polls.

But now that's out the way try this.

The most recent regional voting intention in Scotland from Yougov, taken before the local election results, show the Conservatives almost doubling their projected share of the vote from 2015, going from 15 per cent to 28. This surge is at the expense of all three rival parties, with Labour down six points from 2015, and the Lib Dems losing a percentage point. Even though the results suggest that the SNP remain by far and away the dominant force in Scottish politics, their protected vote share is down from 50 per cent in 2015 to 41 per cent now.

http://www.scotsman.com/news/general-election-2017-what-polls-say-three-weeks-before-the-vote-1-4446378


Yougov?

Most attention in Scotland has been on the Conservative resurgence at Labour’s expense – the Tories have nearly doubled their vote share, increasing from 15% in 2015 to 28% now. Labour meanwhile have seen their share of the vote decline from 24% to 18% now – their lowest share of the vote anywhere in the UK.

This is something of a sideshow to continued SNP dominance, however. The nationalists remain in command at 41% of the vote, although this does represent a nine point decrease on their share of the vote in 2015.

https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/05/15/voting-intention-regional-breakdown-apr-24-may-5/

A_Pict_In_A_Past_Life

sss555s wrote: »

You forgot to include the X factor and BGT results.

You can only compare a local election with a local election and the SNP massively increased their lead over second place as well as picking up more seats (all be it a fair % of the new seats). I did mean seats and not votes so apologies for that confusion.
There was no falling off a cliff except for Labour.

Simple question.
Is SNP vote share decreasing?

A_Pict_In_A_Past_Life

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

Interesting, Scotland appears to be the only net exporter

Why then is Scotland's GDP so far below England's?

A_Pict_In_A_Past_Life

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

There's a bit of rounding going on, but for clarity, it appears it was an additional 107,221 votes

The share of the vote was however the same.
Can you really not grasp simple arithmetic?
Even ma wee wains can work that out.
:rotfl:

.string.

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

I am in agreement that the referendum for Scottish Independence should occur post Brexit negotiations.

I believe it was TM that said that the Brexit negotiations could be achieved in that timeframe

So you dodge the question. I had expected you to defend what you had written, instead I get an SNP slogan.

IveSeenTheLight

IveSeenTheLight wrote: »

There's a bit of rounding going on, but for clarity, it appears it was an additional 107,221 votes

A_Pict_In_A_Past_Life wrote: »

The share of the vote was however the same.
Can you really not grasp simple arithmetic?
Even ma wee wains can work that out.
:rotfl:

Pict, you've attempted to play the man again but appear to have fluffed and scored an own goal

My post you responded to was about additional votes, I mentioned nothing about the share of the vote.

If you want to reference the post where I talked about the share of the vote and indeed showed an understanding of the figures and statistical analysis, may I point you to my response to AMSJ

http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showpost.php?p=72557891&postcount=10422

IveSeenTheLight

.string. wrote: »

So you dodge the question. I had expected you to defend what you had written, instead I get an SNP slogan.

No question dodged, I very clearly gave an answer.