Teeth whitening recommendations?

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brook2jack wrote: »

These are the ingredients for these strips
Ingredients
Glycerin 68.10%
Aqua 20.00%
Cellulose Gum 10.00%
Sodium Chlorite 1.00%
EDTA 0.50%
Citric Acid 0.20%
D, L-Menthol 0.20%

Glycerin is basically the jelly like stuff on the strips , it does nothing. Aqua is water! Cellulose gum is basically sticky stuff , it does nothing, sodium chlorite is basically salt, edta is basically a cleaner , citric acid is a fruit acid which will combine with sodium chlorite to produce chlorine dioxide which is an acid cleaner normally used to clean swimming pools. When used on enamel it can dissolve it away http://lindagreenwall.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Chlorine-Dioxide_Jul08.pdf

Do not use these if you value your teeth, chlorine dioxide has also been responsible for permanent lung damage in one lady who had her teeth whitened with it.

Menthol is basically peppermint flavouring. So you are paying alot of money to dissolve your teeth with swimming pool cleaner.

EDTA also binds calcium which you do not want near to your teeth.

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There are bacteria which produce H2O2 hydrogen peroxide and do not produce lactic acid like many other bacteria and so are beneficial to the teeth. They compete with the normal oral pathogens and can help reduce them. There are three bacteria which are known for these properties which have a tradename of ProBiora3. The bacteria are Streptococcus rattus JH145™, Streptococcus oralis KJ3™ and Streptococcus uberis KJ2™. These are anti carey bacteria because they do not produce lactic acid and they do produce small amounts of H2O2 which can help whiten the teeth but no where near to dental tooth whitening in terms of speed. They can be made into a yoghurt quite successfully which I have been doing. I have been brushing my teeth with a small amount of the yoghurt and flossing with the yoghurt in order to get the bacteria into my gums.

You only need a sample of the bacteria and then you can make yoghurt from them and culture them as you want them. You could find them on Amazon or the web. They are sold as mints by companies such as garden of life probiotic smile but the bacteria quantity is fairly low at 300 million CFU per mint but it only takes 1 bacteria to reproduce so they will multiply given food and time. I you start with some yoghurt from a previous batch they culture much quicker as there are considerably more bacteria, at least many billions, in a small 200ml yoghurt. The Probiotic Smile claims to provide noticeable difference in 30 days but that seems a bit optimistic IMO. However it is difficult to say because I consume various supplements and herbs which tend to stain my teeth quite badly. Grape Seed Extract is absolutely terrible for staining the teeth and I take it mixed in water and so are a number of other herbs which contain tannins.

joewa

Whats the strongest strength
a dentist can prescribe

brook2jack

6% hydrogen peroxide which is equivalent to 18% carbamine peroxide.

Dill

PrettyFlower90 wrote: »

I have read some posts on an old thread here, over 10 years old about recommendations without going to the dentist but wanted some more up to date posts lol

There was indeed a very old thread, which used to erupt into fights between dentists and teeth-whitening companies/representatives quite frequently :eek: It looks like they have closed it.

I live in quite an expensive part of the UK and my local dentist offers "home whitening" for £299, which makes me think you may be able to get yours done for less than the £500 you were quoted.

SaveSomeMore_2

I've had custom trays and syringes from the dentist.

DO NOT recommend though:
-Incredibly fiddly getting the gel in the trays and then cleaning them
-Inevitably some gets on your gums/gets swallowed which made my gums bleed and throat sore
-You have a horrid sensation when you first put them in (a crackling feeling like your teeth dissolving!)
-The sensitivity it causes, although temporary, is unbearable
-It takes a lot of work. I used two full syringes over two months (having to space out treatments due to the sensitivity) - the problem with this is prolonged sensitivity, and the prolonged period where you cannot eat staining foods (literally for weeks)

Such a faff and the results (although noticed by others) were not amazing.

I'd say spend the extra money and go for Zoom whitening. Its done in one or two sessions (in a clinic by professionals so no faff involved for you), no bleeding gums or side effects due to bleach, and any sensitivity/downtime eating non-staining foods is reduced drastically.

brook2jack wrote: »

There is no toothpaste, kit etc you can legally buy which will whiten teeth.

In the UK. Crest Whitestrips which can be bought online imported do work as they contain peroxide. How safe they are is debateable.

brook2jack

SaveSomeMore wrote: »

I'd say spend the extra money and go for Zoom whitening. Its done in one or two sessions (in a clinic by professionals so no faff involved for you), no bleeding gums or side effects due to bleach, and any sensitivity/downtime eating non-staining foods is reduced drastically.



In the UK. Crest Whitestrips which can be bought online imported do work as they contain peroxide. How safe they are is debateable.

From the sounds of it you overfilled your trays. You should not have overflow, it should not make your gums bleed or throat sore as the trays are manufactured to have small reservoirs. You should only put a tiny amount of gel in each tooth.

Trays can be alternated with tooth mousse to stop sensitivity and is a lot more controllable than zoom. Zoom and other lamp systems give much more sensitivity and are normally followed up by trays anyway as there is a fair amount of fade back.

It is also illegal to import crest strips into the UK, so again you are relying on importers who are knowingly breaking the law and have no legal way of importing the strips. So no guarantee they are what they say they are.

Rolandtheroadie

Have a google about coconut oil.
Give it a couple of months and see how you go.

brook2jack

Or save your money and don't bother. There is no evidence it works and the advertising standards agency have stopped companies claiming their coconut oil whitens teeth eg https://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Adjudications/2015/7/Cocowhite-Ltd/SHP_ADJ_296276.aspx#.Vue5CfDfWrU

Unfortunately the company continued https://www.asa.org.uk/Rulings/Non-compliant-online-advertisers/Cocowhite-Ltd-321417.aspx#.Vue5gfDfWrU

welshdent

"Zoom whitening" is just a brand. The materials are identical whatever company makes them.

SaveSomeMore_2

brook2jack wrote: »

From the sounds of it you overfilled your trays. You should not have overflow, it should not make your gums bleed or throat sore as the trays are manufactured to have small reservoirs. You should only put a tiny amount of gel in each tooth.

Possibly. It is really tricky though, as its difficult getting the gel out of the syringe in the first place. Either not enough so the gel only covered half the teeth or too much and I'd have to start again.

I think aswell saliva gets in and it all migrates anyway (I used them overnight to minimise this, but maybe I salivate more than average!

I didn't notice any resoivors on my trays, they just finished at the gumline - nothing to stop leaking.

These were professional trays from a top celebrity dentist who whitens for WAGS so should be well practised!.