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Landlord -Fibre to the home

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  • HappyMJ
    HappyMJ Posts: 21,115 Forumite
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    The cable installed by Openreach is neither the tenant's nor the landlord's property.

    Don't be so quick in trying to shoot me down, read the posts first...

    You're implying that it is illegal to cut the Openreach cable which it isn't. That cable can be removed by anyone.

    Yes it will cost the next occupier an installation charge to lay a new cable but really that's not my problem. If the cable did not exist at the beginning of the tenancy I would be able to remove it. Even if I paid Openreach to remove the cabling the next occupier will have to pay to reinstall it anyway so it makes no difference whether I remove it myself or pay someone to remove it.
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  • Miss_Samantha
    Miss_Samantha Posts: 1,197 Forumite
    HappyMJ,

    You have given terrible advice and were incorrect on a number of points. Accept it and move on rather that stubbornly digging deeper.
  • System
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    The cable installed by Openreach is neither the tenant's nor the landlord's property.

    Don't be so quick in trying to shoot me down, read the posts first...
    I wonder how much BT would charge the householder to get a fibre team out to blow a new fibre through to the premises after the original as cut
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  • Guest101
    Guest101 Posts: 15,764 Forumite
    HappyMJ,

    You have given terrible advice and were incorrect on a number of points. Accept it and move on rather that stubbornly digging deeper.



    I think there's possibly some confusion amongst all the various contracts in play (isn't there always)


    As far as the LL is concerned the tenant needs to remove the wire. The LL will not care if the tenant pays for this or does it themselves.


    Openreach might or might not care. I'm not sure on ownership, I would guess openreach continue to own the wiring, but I don't know.
  • AdrianC
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    Guest101 wrote: »
    Openreach might or might not care. I'm not sure on ownership, I would guess openreach continue to own the wiring, but I don't know.
    Openreach certainly DO own the wiring, right up until and including the "master socket" on the inside of the property.

    Cutting the wire would incur charges to re-connect it. If you don't want any connection, you have to get them to disconnect it.
  • Davesnave
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    Openreach certainly DO own the wiring, right up until and including the "master socket" on the inside of the property.
    Correct, and you are not even supposed to move that yourself, but to get an engineer out.

    That could be really costly if, like me, a person has to move their office around several times while a builder bashes merry hell out of their house......

    Luckily we have abour 60' of superfluous cable in the loft, which makes me think the previous owner once had an office at t'other end.

    Also astonished to find one needs an 'engineer' to disconnect/connect two tiny cables carrying a microscopic voltage!:rotfl:
  • AdrianC
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    Davesnave wrote: »
    Correct, and you are not even supposed to move that yourself, but to get an engineer out.

    That could be really costly if, like me, a person has to move their office around several times while a builder bashes merry hell out of their house...
    Well, no, because you don't have to plug your computer straight into the master socket, or the router/modem that's right next to it.

    Your own cabling inside the house is your problem.
  • mgarl10024
    mgarl10024 Posts: 643 Forumite
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    Trigger98 wrote: »
    the initial indication from my soon to be landlord is that he does not want fibre installed,
    HappyMJ wrote: »
    I wouldn't bother asking.

    That'll get the new relationship off to a good start... :)
  • System
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    Davesnave wrote: »
    Correct, and you are not even supposed to move that yourself, but to get an engineer out.

    That could be really costly if, like me, a person has to move their office around several times while a builder bashes merry hell out of their house......

    Luckily we have abour 60' of superfluous cable in the loft, which makes me think the previous owner once had an office at t'other end.

    Also astonished to find one needs an 'engineer' to disconnect/connect two tiny cables carrying a microscopic voltage!:rotfl:
    But in the case we are talking about (FTTP) it is a hair thin fibre optic cable that will only work if terminated using the correct tools. Unless you have all the fibre splicing kit to hand and have experience then you will need to pay somebody to do that.
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  • Davesnave
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    Well, no, because you don't have to plug your computer straight into the master socket, or the router/modem that's right next to it.

    Your own cabling inside the house is your problem.

    Of course, but if the wall carrying the master socket is being demolished, then it would appear sensible to move it.
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