homeless people

stranger12

hi guys,

I have seem some homeless people which I feel really bad for .

Last time in 2011, I got the guy some duvet, money etc and spend an entire night calling shelters so someone could pick him up as it was cold. He ran away and called me later saying " his mate has a prepaid meter and told him if he can get some money, he can go there"

I gave few some money and there he disappeared for ever.

This made me think homeless people want to live like how they do now. they are addicted to alcohol and don't want to work/ apply for benefit as short term support.

tonight, I saw another old man which was aged around 60ish . felt bad for him and got him some food and shoes . he was saying because he is single man government doesn't help him etc.

are these statements correct ?

I know so many people on benefit and surprised why such homeless people get nothing from government if they really need it .

thanks

NYM

stranger12 wrote: »

hi guys,

I have seem some homeless people which I feel really bad for .

Last time in 2011, I got the guy some duvet, money etc and spend an entire night calling shelters so someone could pick him up as it was cold. He ran away and called me later saying " his mate has a prepaid meter and told him if he can get some money, he can go there"

I gave few some money and there he disappeared for ever.

This made me thing these homeless people want to live like how they do now. they are addicted to alcohol and don't want to work/ apply for benefit as short term support.

tonight, I saw another old man which was aged around 60ish . felt bad for him and got him some food and shoes . he was saying because he is single man government doesn't help him etc.

are these statements correct ?

I know so many people on benefit and surprised why such homeless people get nothing from government if they really need it .

thanks

Rough sleepers can claim JSA, Disability Living Allowance and Employment Support Allowance (those who qualify)
They can make a claim using a friend or relative's address for any correspondence.

dippy3103

They will get benefits. Urban myth that homeless people can't claim.

aaroncaz

Years ago you didn't need an address to claim, you picked up your giro from the office.................sure to be something similar now. And if you are dependent on alcohol, you can get more benefits.

stranger12

so I shouldn't feel sorry for them ?

I think given them change and money is not correct as you tell them you can beg and people will pay you .

Despite above, I have always bought food and cloth but barely give money as they use that for drug or alcohol.

in a way what people are suggesting is they are lying and government does help them if they apply for benefit ?

tomtontom

dippy3103 wrote: »

They will get benefits. Urban myth that homeless people can't claim.

They *may* get benefits. The practicalities of living on the streets make claiming extremely difficult.

I wouldn't assume anything about a homeless person. They are individuals, their circumstances are as unique as any other individual.

NYM

I feel sorry for anyone that finds themselves in dire circumstances that are not of their own making.

stranger12

why living on street makes it difficult ?

I know people who move here as asylum seeker and don't intentionally work as many of you might know about . They sit at home all day and their rent and expenses is paid.

so why someone like that can get it and not a homeless person.

almost anyone can get JSA so a homeless if willing to work will be given the payment in my view.

I wasn't 100% sure hence the reason for the post

tomtontom

stranger12 wrote: »

why living on street makes it difficult ?

I know people who move here as asylum seeker and don't intentionally work as many of you might know about . They sit at home all day and their rent and expenses is paid.

so why someone like that can get it and not a homeless person.

almost anyone can get JSA so a homeless if willing to work will be given the payment in my view.

I wasn't 100% sure hence the reason for the post

Use some common sense. How do you suggest you actively seek work after spending the night in bitterly cold temperatures? You've got no address (c/o The Jobcentre doesn't look good to an employer) and you've only got the clothes you've slept in for the past week.

Wind up or just ignorant?

NYM

tomtontom wrote: »

Use some common sense. How do you suggest you actively seek work after spending the night in bitterly cold temperatures? You've got no address (c/o The Jobcentre doesn't look good to an employer) and you've only got the clothes you've slept in for the past week.

Wind up or just ignorant?

A bit of both...maybe

stranger12

tomtontom wrote: »

Use some common sense. How do you suggest you actively seek work after spending the night in bitterly cold temperatures? You've got no address (c/o The Jobcentre doesn't look good to an employer) and you've only got the clothes you've slept in for the past week.

Wind up or just ignorant?

I do so what benefit can they get? nothing ?

Is there no benefit for people that are vulnerable ?

If I was in their shoe, I wouldn't have like to continue living the same way and would have done something.

When you apply for JSA, you can also apply for housing benefit or rent a room so you don't have to sleep on the streets