Small claims - against the police?

JustAnotherSaver

Malthusian wrote: »

1) People don't just "go out for a drive" in this day and age, this isn't the 1950s.

I stopped reading there because i assumed the rest of what you said was equally as much nonsense as that statement.

Why don't people just go out for a drive? Because YOU don't? So everyone else mustn't?

RuthnJasper

Malthusian wrote: »

The bashing is probably for what the OP isn't telling us.

1) People don't just "go out for a drive" in this day and age, this isn't the 1950s.

2) The police don't just pull over random cars to stop and search people to see if they've got any drugs on them.

3) The reason the police had for stopping that car in particular is probably the same reason they arrested the driver in addition to the guy who was carrying the drugs.

But as the OP doesn't want to talk about that, inevitably people are going to speculate.

Possibly. But:

1) Some people still do. Because nobody that you know goes out just for a drive doesn't automatically rule out the possibility that it never happens at all, anywhere, anymore;

2) The passenger/OP's friend's mate - according to the OP himself - had "previous". If so, he may well have been under surveillance, thereby making it more than likely that this was not a pulling-over of any random car;

3) Of course the rozzers arrested the driver also. He was unknown to them and could have been up to his eyes in nefarious shenanigans. That is not the issue in question. The friend was arrested and ultimately, rightly, released without charge.

However, despite his innocence, his property was examined and significantly damaged. This is the issue.


Just - all good wishes to you, but I still think your friend's probably best-off by laying this matter to rest. x

JustAnotherSaver

Oh & something that I hadn't mentioned which was probably also a factor...

They're both young lads (early 20s) & my friend is in quite an expensive car. You'll be looking at the £8k-£10k bracket. Not just a new 1litre either. It's a very quick & sporty car with rear tints.

Which was in my mind probably enough for them to at least go over & start asking questions.

BrentMeister

JustAnotherSaver wrote: »

Oh & something that I hadn't mentioned which was probably also a factor...

They're both young lads (early 20s) & my friend is in quite an expensive car. You'll be looking at the £8k-£10k bracket. Not just a new 1litre either. It's a very quick & sporty car with rear tints.

Which was in my mind probably enough for them to at least go over & start asking questions.

The police dont need a reason to stop a vehicle on the road.

JustAnotherSaver

BrentMeister wrote: »

The police dont need a reason to stop a vehicle on the road.

Very true, but in my own experience & from what i've known happen with others is that if they see a young lad in a fast expensive car, the probability of them being pulled is much greater than if they were in say ...... an old Fiat Panda.

I'd never been pulled myself until i'd saved up a bit & got myself a sporty looking car.

Friends i know had the same thing. Drive rot boxes - no issue all day long. Get a bit of money together & buy something nice, sporty, quick & the police want to talk all of a sudden.

And i can only speak for myself, but a quick car didn't change my driving style any. Just because it was quick didn't mean i drove it hard. I know the way of thinking on the MSE forums so i could tell that would be coming. Maybe not from you but certainly someone would've suggested it.

hollydays

JustAnotherSaver wrote: »

Very true, but in my own experience & from what i've known happen with others is that if they see a young lad in a fast expensive car, the probability of them being pulled is much greater than if they were in say ...... an old Fiat Panda.

I'd never been pulled myself until i'd saved up a bit & got myself a sporty looking car.

Friends i know had the same thing. Drive rot boxes - no issue all day long. Get a bit of money together & buy something nice, sporty, quick & the police want to talk all of a sudden.

And i can only speak for myself, but a quick car didn't change my driving style any. Just because it was quick didn't mean i drove it hard. I know the way of thinking on the MSE forums so i could tell that would be coming. Maybe not from you but certainly someone would've suggested it.

Yes. It's seems that the police stop vehicles that are more suspect.
Either that or there is intelligence that flags up a vehicle or owner of a vehicle. As has already been said., choose your friends wisely.

blink18

Marktheshark wrote: »

Phone screens make very good "chuffing" pads for Cocaine as they are flat as a mirror.

Unfortunately this fine white powder falls down the edge of the screen in sufficient quantities to be tested for and charge with class A possession.

I would think himself lucky they did not find what they were testing for, he would be on remand now.

don't talk nonsense, please link to one instance where sufficient quantities of cocaine has been found down the side of a phone to secure a conviction.

daytona0

blink18 wrote: »

don't talk nonsense, please link to one instance where sufficient quantities of cocaine has been found down the side of a phone to secure a conviction.

Or you link to one instance where sufficient quantities of cocaine were found down the side of the phone, but there was insufficient evidence to secure a conviction.

robatwork

Taking everything you said in the OP as fact.....

There are 2 guilty parties here. The passenger with drugs, and the police who broke the phone. So one of them should pay for the broken phone.

Getting the police to pay will be VERY hard work. I think the passenger should pay for the phone - but for his actions the phone wouldn't be broken.

JustAnotherSaver

Well he's trying to get in touch with them but apparently he can only speak to one specific officer.

So he asks when this officer is working & is given a timeframe.

So he calls only to be told (time & again) the officer isn't in.

Convenient.