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The labour party really is finished, isnt it?

https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/ex-greek-minister-varoufakis-advise-094358633.html


just the guy to leave your country financially secure.....the tories must be loving every minute, labour unelectable for the next 20 years.
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  • setmefree2
    setmefree2 Posts: 9,072 Forumite
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    zarf2007 wrote: »
    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/ex-greek-minister-varoufakis-advise-094358633.html


    just the guy to leave your country financially secure.....the tories must be loving every minute, labour unelectable for the next 20 years.

    That really is funny :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:
  • antrobus
    antrobus Posts: 17,386 Forumite
    zarf2007 wrote: »
    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/ex-greek-minister-varoufakis-advise-094358633.html

    just the guy to leave your country financially secure.....the tories must be loving every minute, labour unelectable for the next 20 years.

    Original story from the Islington Tribune
    http://www.islingtontribune.com/corbynbrexit

    Mr Corbyn said: “Varoufakis is interesting, because he has obviously been through all the negotiations" - "[with ECB, European Commission and the International Monetary Fund]" adds the Tribune by way of explanation.

    All of which poses questions such as; Why is it interesting? What does Corbyn propose doing that will involve the UK in negotiations with the ECB, European Commission and the International Monetary Fund?

    And yes, the obvious answer has occured to me. As in, drive the nation to the brink of bankruptcy in six months thereby requiring an international bailout. Varoufakis manged it with Greece. I dare say it might be a bit more of a challenge to do the same for the UK, but it should be possible if someone puts their mind to it.
  • Generali
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    zarf2007 wrote: »
    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/ex-greek-minister-varoufakis-advise-094358633.html


    just the guy to leave your country financially secure.....the tories must be loving every minute, labour unelectable for the next 20 years.

    Assuming Labour lose the next election, by the time 2025 comes around Labour will have had one PM elected in 50 years, Tony Blair.

    If it wasn't for the unions, themselves dead outside the public sector, and the BBC Labour would be in the same place as the Lib Dems.

    The Scots have replaced Labour with the SNP and I suspect that the English are in the process of doing the same (UKIP?). May will be interesting as it'll be the first time Mr Corbyn's Labour has to stand on actual policies rather than Mr Corbyn just mouthing off.
  • ukcarper
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    Generali wrote: »
    Assuming Labour lose the next election, by the time 2025 comes around Labour will have had one PM elected in 50 years, Tony Blair.

    If it wasn't for the unions, themselves dead outside the public sector, and the BBC Labour would be in the same place as the Lib Dems.

    The Scots have replaced Labour with the SNP and I suspect that the English are in the process of doing the same (UKIP?). May will be interesting as it'll be the first time Mr Corbyn's Labour has to stand on actual policies rather than Mr Corbyn just mouthing off.
    I don't think UKIP will replace Labour and I don't think the Labour collapse will be as big as you think, there are a large number of people who will support a left wing party. I believe quite a few posters here are out of touch with a large part of the country. Saying that although I think they will be the second larges party by a margin I don't think they have a chance of being elected. The interesting thing is where the moderate left wing vote will go might be a resurgence in Lib/Dem vote but not enough to make a real difference.
  • chucknorris
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    Generali wrote: »
    Assuming Labour lose the next election, by the time 2025 comes around Labour will have had one PM elected in 50 years, Tony Blair.

    If it wasn't for the unions, themselves dead outside the public sector, and the BBC Labour would be in the same place as the Lib Dems.

    The Scots have replaced Labour with the SNP and I suspect that the English are in the process of doing the same (UKIP?). May will be interesting as it'll be the first time Mr Corbyn's Labour has to stand on actual policies rather than Mr Corbyn just mouthing off.

    It always surprised me why Tony Blair seemed to be looked down on by a lot of labour supporters, don't they understand that you have to actually be capable of winning an election to actually govern. But I'm certainly not complaining about their current choice of leader, well done lads.
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  • bap98189
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    zarf2007 wrote: »
    https://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/ex-greek-minister-varoufakis-advise-094358633.html

    just the guy to leave your country financially secure.....the tories must be loving every minute, labour unelectable for the next 20 years.

    Why is his appointment as an advisor ridiculous?

    He has a PhD in economics and has taught the subject at several universities including Cambridge. He was also highly critical of the level of debt the Greek government was building up, and was involved in the negotiations with the EU the ended the Greek debt crisis.

    Aren't those the sort of qualifications you would want in an economics advisor?
  • kabayiri
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    I don't think UKIP will replace Labour.

    UKIP is a transition party; the interesting question is where it will lead to.
  • antrobus
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    bap98189 wrote: »
    Why is his appointment as an advisor ridiculous?

    He has a PhD in economics and has taught the subject at several universities including Cambridge. .....

    On a point of order, I can't see any evidence that he has a PhD in economics.
    bap98189 wrote: »
    ...He was also highly critical of the level of debt the Greek government was building up, and was involved in the negotiations with the EU the ended the Greek debt crisis.....

    Varoufakis acted as an economic advisor to the Greek government in 2004-2006 when the debt was being built up. He then became the Greek minister of finance in January 2015 and spent the next seven months building up even more debt, and whilst he was 'involved' in the negotiations with the EU et al, his basic position was that he didn't like the way they were going. He opposed the deal that 'ended the Greek debt crisis', resigned, and gave up on politics.
    bap98189 wrote: »
    ....Aren't those the sort of qualifications you would want in an economics advisor?

    Someone with a proven record of failure?
  • CLAPTON
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    bap98189 wrote: »
    Why is his appointment as an advisor ridiculous?

    He has a PhD in economics and has taught the subject at several universities including Cambridge. He was also highly critical of the level of debt the Greek government was building up, and was involved in the negotiations with the EU the ended the Greek debt crisis.

    Aren't those the sort of qualifications you would want in an economics advisor?

    he seems an admirable choice for the Corbynist labour party
  • mwpt
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    antrobus wrote: »
    Varoufakis acted as an economic advisor to the Greek government in 2004-2006 when the debt was being built up.

    I'm not a defender of Varoufakis but on this point data shows debt accumulation began in earnest after those years.
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