Emergency tooth ache

brook2jack

Antibiotics have plenty of side effects from thrush to what is described as an impending apocalypse.... that of antibiotic resistance.

In dentistry we have to audit our antibiotic prescription rate and indeed dentists who do NHS work have their rates of prescription reviewed every year and are pulled up if too many prescriptions are issued.

There are numerous public education initiatives as well to stop people asking for them, so antibiotics certainly shouldn't be handed out like smarties.

There have been various moves to ban clove oil and tooth tincture in the US or reclassify it as a drug. Certainly in the UK dentists have moved to eugenol free dressings and medications because of the problems with it.

mal4mac

brook2jack wrote: »

A&E departments are overwhelmed with patients and there is a campaign going to stop people going there unless their complaint is life threatening.

I don't agree with this stance at the philosophical level. Stopping pain, for me, is the most important thing. So I'm going to A & E, as NHS(England) recommends, whatever the penny pinching managers at my local hospital think.

If A & E departments are overwhelmed with patients then it's the government's fault, and I didn't vote for the current government. So I have no qualms about being part of the "overwhelming tide". Maybe such a tide will carry Cameron out of office.

welshbookworm

So I worked my way through
paracetamol
ibuprofen
Co dydramol
Oragel
Going to the dentist and getting antibiotics
And I was still in serious pain.
What was I supposed to do? I know Clove oil can cause burns but the pain was very bad and it was the only thing that stopped it.

mal4mac

A dentist in another forum recommends emergency root canal treatment / tooth extraction if all pain killers fail:

http://forum.pearldentalclinic.co.uk/forum/emergency-dentistry/129-what-is-the-best-pain-killer-for-toothache

Did your dentist not recommend this? If not, ask him why not. If this is the optimal way to stop pain, why didn't he do an immediate extraction/root canal?

brook2jack

mal4mac wrote: »

A dentist in another forum recommends emergency root canal treatment / tooth extraction if all pain killers fail:

http://forum.pearldentalclinic.co.uk/forum/emergency-dentistry/129-what-is-the-best-pain-killer-for-toothache

Did your dentist not recommend this? If not, ask him why not. If this is the optimal way to stop pain, why didn't he do an immediate extraction/root canal?

If you had pericoronitis ( inflammation of gum around tooth most often a wisdom tooth) or a gum infection, a root canal treatment is of no use and an extraction a rather radical treatment that would rapidly leave you with no teeth.

Unfortunately doctor google is quite often useless at sorting out real life dental problems. Better to trust the actual dentist who can see you.

The OP had not seen a dentist when they posted.

AG47

mal4mac wrote: »

A dentist in another forum recommends emergency root canal treatment / tooth extraction if all pain killers fail:

http://forum.pearldentalclinic.co.uk/forum/emergency-dentistry/129-what-is-the-best-pain-killer-for-toothache

Did your dentist not recommend this? If not, ask him why not. If this is the optimal way to stop pain, why didn't he do an immediate extraction/root canal?

Root canal is not a good idea, you just lock all the toxic stuff in.

Extraction is best, but only if you have to.

mal4mac

AG47 wrote: »

Root canal is not a good idea, you just lock all the toxic stuff in.

Extraction is best, but only if you have to.

Don't they extract all the toxic stuff and then seal the canals from further toxic invasion? From my googling I get the impression that, if you are unlucky some toxic stuff might be left, and then further intervention may be needed. But I'll leave the dentists on this forum to disagree with you

ripplyuk

I think it's scandalous that A&E won't help someone with severe toothache (in my area, they won't). I understand that they won't have a dentist or anyone who can do a proper treatment, but surely they could prescribe strong painkillers.

I've had toothache and it was unbearable. I couldn't eat or sleep and was just rolling around in pain. I've been given morphine in hospital before for conditions less painful than this. The recommended paracetamol/brufen combination didn't touch it. I would have done anything to get relief from it. If I could have found out where any drug dealers lived, I've have been straight there begging for heroin.

Eventually, all the brufen I was taking gave me 3 stomach ulcers.
People may say it's just a tooth, or that it's harmless, but pain is pain.

mal4mac

Looks like the word's out to keep the hordes of dental patients away from A & E through not providing pain relief. This is life under Cameron!

welshdent

Nothing to do with Cameron!! Blame labour they were the ones that blessed us with the dental contract.

Incidentally pain killers last only a short time. That's not the answer. The answer is for the politicians to give us a decent service or be honest about what they will or won't pay for