live-in landlord harassment+

AdrianC

kinger101 wrote: »

A lodging agreement (or tenancy agreement for that matter) doesn't need to written, though in the absence of one, it's a case of he said/she said if it goes to court.

I'm not sure there is a "default" agreement for lodging.

Exactly - so you're back to the basics of "reasonable" notice and somewhere around zero rights.

kinger101

alyouska12 wrote: »

I havent missed that point...i saved up for that luxury/high deposit...didnt know he will turn out a mentally ill ex council estate tenant..
i will be moving further now but i still need my deposite or more time to saveup..

There's nothing wrong with council tenants. Or ex-council tenants. There's nothing wrong with Poles, Pakistanis or gays. Perhaps you agree, but I have my suspicions when you bring these entirely extraneous observations into your post.

And please don't make light of mental illness.

alyouska12

AdrianC wrote: »

Exactly - so you're back to the basics of "reasonable" notice and somewhere around zero rights.

other than reasonable notice and no deposit back unless through court...
in other wise im screwd, but theres a contract... i will find it..

alyouska12

kinger101 wrote: »

There's nothing wrong with council tenants. Or ex-council tenants. There's nothing wrong with Poles, Pakistanis or gays. Perhaps you agree, but I have my suspicions when you bring these entirely extraneous observations into your post.

And please don't make light of mental illness.

hey...if i was saying ALL ex council tenants are mentally ill (to a noticeable level) perhaps I wouldnt have moved with one and paid an arm and a leg?
if I have an issue with gay people surley I would have an issue with this gay furnished room with flashing heart bleeming lights! lol...
when it comes to mental illnesses...we r all mentally ill to some degree....
but when it comes to a twitching landlord with a knife with his hand i think i have a good reason to evaluate the mental condition of the person im sharing a flat with?

Innys1

alyouska12 wrote: »

Look buddy....I don't think you understand......the argument i made above is generic and relative to a situation wheres theres no urgency as ur comment seemed not to be specific to my situation, in a non emergency I can make my decision how much to spend and where as i please...I don't mind going out further considering the circumstances but in other circumstances like before i moved central i would prefer to spend a tiny more save on travelcard and walk to work... i replied to your generic comment with my view on the current general situation with London Rates...not my current options..i can tell from your replies you are not in a similar market to mine and lack the understanding...so please spare me ur rhetorics...
travel cards cost around 120 month...average rooms in zone 5 about 400-550 put them together and its up to 670... if you live near a job in zone 2 thats how much a room would cost...same thing...again this is if i was comfortable and not in an urgency situation...
please stop with the sarcastic inflammatory language and be helpful or don't post at all...im seeking an advice not some arrogance...is that clear enough to you..

I don't need to be looking for a room to rent in Zone 2 to understand it's cheaper the further you are from London.

If you're right, and the cost is the same, why does anyone live outside of Zone 1? There are people who commute from as far as Birmingham to London - would they do that if the total cost was the same as living in a house in, say, Kensington?

Not everyone can afford to live within walking distance to work and those that can't commute a word which seems not to be in your vocabulary.

If you want to come on here and ask for advice, don't be surprised if you get answers you don't want to hear.

If you think I'm being inflammatory, perhaps you're a bit too sensitive to have left home by now.

Finally, you don't get to decide who posts on which threads - you're not important enough, despite what you may think.

alyouska12

Innys1 wrote: »

I don't need to be looking for a room to rent in Zone 2 to understand it's cheaper the further you are from London.

If you're right, and the cost is the same, why does anyone live outside of Zone 1? There are people who commute from as far as Birmingham to London - would they do that if the total cost was the same as living in a house in, say, Kensington?

Not everyone can afford to live within walking distance to work and those that can't commute a word which seems not to be in your vocabulary.

If you want to come on here and ask for advice, don't be surprised if you get answers you don't want to hear.

If you think I'm being inflammatory, perhaps you're a bit too sensitive to have left home by now.

Finally, you don't get to decide who posts on which threads - you're not important enough, despite what you may think.

again arrogance and inflammatory...
I travelled for 3 hours everyday for 12 years...
try to work 12 hours 5 days aweek with chemo therapy patients families then travel another hours and let me see how much energy you have left to be ignorant...im too tired to argue with you..waste of energy...but reread the travelcard+room zone 5 and no travel card zone 2 cost...if you still dont agree please find another threat as your not being helpful here. also read the part where i say i dont mind living further considering.. thank you

Innys1

alyouska12 wrote: »

again arrogance and inflammatory...
I travelled for 3 hours everyday for 12 years...
try to work 12 hours 5 days aweek with chemo therapy patients families then travel another hours and let me see how much energy you have left to be ignorant...im too tired to argue with you..waste of energy...but reread the travelcard+room zone 5 and no travel card zone 2 cost...if you still dont agree please find another threat as your not being helpful here. also read the part where i say i dont mind living further considering.. thank you

While the above is all very lovely, I have my doubts as to its truth.

Still, if you'd rather stick your head in the sand, knock yourself out - I'm not the one getting grief from their landlord.

alyouska12

so now accuse me of lying..how did this thread turn in to this...what a troll...
...hope u managed to get off on someones problem. I'm sure you are very lovely and its all me
have a nice life. i will get another accommodation eventually ...but i think it'll be harder for you to be better person. all the best

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This may not help at all. But I wonder if the council who owns the property has any regulations against subletting or having a lodger. They probably don't but it might be worth looking at the councils housing tenancy documents. They are often shown online. If they did, by some miracle.., you could then discuss this with your LL.

If your LL is getting above the 'rent a room' rent.., you can also discuss how awkward a tax bill would be from HMRC given the state of his finances. They don't go away. Having additional income as rent, might even affect any child support calculations.

I wonder if he is claiming single person's council tax discount? I suspect he will be if his finances are that bad. Of course, if you are living there, he shouldn't be.

One or other of these awkward points might help you negotiate to get your deposit back, and released early from your tenancy. But I'd keep anything you value in your room in storage somewhere else. In fact, I'd empty the room out as much as possible.

However, you could also use this information to negotiate - 'I will pay my rent and stay til April if you will guarantee leaving me in peace (including Saturdays between the hours or x and y) rather than have the situation get even messier than it is right now for you and me. This will give both of us time to sort out alternative living arrangments'.

Years ago, when I was living in London, on not much money, I used to live in single person's hostels. Some of them were for the homeless, some were mainly full of students. I wonder if this might be an option for you. No deposit required. Or even as a stop gap. I lived in a Church Army Hostel for a couple of weeks, it wasn't very pleasant, but I had my own key and my own room (my top priority, I had lived in a studio flat with someone I discovered after moving in, I couldn't get on with, it turned into mental torture so I desperately needed the privacy. I still can't listen to reggae music lol, she played it almost 24 hours!). It did while I found somewhere else to live.

If you do get chance with another deposit, try and find a flat/house share rather than a lodger arrangment. You will be more protected. Being a lodger really does give you no protection, and makes getting a deposit back from an unwilling LL even more difficult.

I do understand why you want to live centrally in London.., but you do have to look at the compromise this means and if it is possible to live further out, commute in (like for example, where I live in Gravesend, its 16 mins from Kings Cross but you can rent a room for £85 plus - you'd have to add in rail costs of course). There might be other options that are a bearable commuting time, but cheaper. Look for places that are close to fast rail links.

AdrianC

deannatrois wrote: »

But I wonder if the council who owns the property has any regulations against subletting

"ex-council privately owned"