live-in landlord harassment+

alyouska12

AdrianC wrote: »

<sigh> Bit melodramatic.

LOTS of people who work in London don't live in London. They commute.

But, of course, if your London job doesn't pay enough for you to afford London prices for accommodation, you really should be questioning the viability of that job. A similar job elsewhere may pay less, but the cost of living may well be more affordable.

may seem dramatic to you...but try to be in my shoes...i was born in london and its my city even thou i grew up abroad...if you add the cost of commuting to the rent saving its almost the same thing..
this is the way london has become..for thousands on low ncome..

alyouska12

AdrianC wrote: »

If you find his behavior threatening enough to report to the police, why would you WANT to stay living in such a small space with him? I mean, seriously...?

i asked him to work out earlier departure but he said he doesnt want to go throu viewings again...he said u have to stay all the period agreed or u lose ur deposit...i dont want to spend one more day...

elsien

alyouska12 wrote: »

was thinking if i report his threatening behavior to the police it may make him back off and let me live in peace till its moving out date (according to him)...my fear is they would remove me from the property..do u think that would be the most possible scenario?

Or it may make him decide to tell you to leave.

alyouska12

elsien wrote: »

Or it may make him decide to tell you to leave.

can he kick me out without notice and without returning my deposit?

AdrianC

You are a lodger, not a tenant. You do not have to give him any notice at all (nor he you). You can just pack your bags and go. He will owe you the full deposit, less any damage - but you will almost certainly have to take him to court to get it.

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/housing/renting-a-home/subletting-and-lodging/lodging/what-rights-do-lodgers-have/

Where you were born is irrelevant. If you cannot afford to live somewhere, you need to either increase your income or find somewhere you CAN afford to live. London owes you zero for your loyalty.

If you think you are in a bad situation now, expecting it to improve if you call the police is beyond optimistic, way past the realms of massively improbable, and into cloud-cuckoo land.

elsien

If you are a lodger, you have fewer rights.

http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/sharing_and_subletting/lodgers

Use this link to check out your specific situation.

http://england.shelter.org.uk/get_advice/downloads_and_tools/tenancy_checker

Innys1

Much as you may not like it, OP, lodgers have far fewer rights than tenants.

You're wrong about commuting into London vs living in London. If you were right, then the houses in and outside London would cost the same - they don't.

G_M

AdrianC wrote: »

You are a lodger, not a tenant. You do not have to give him any notice at all (nor he you). You can just pack your bags and go. He will owe you the full deposit, less any damage - but you will almost certainly have to take him to court to get it.
.

this is not the case.

What you mean is there is no statutory period of notice.

However there is a contractual obligation on both sides to give notice.

If there is a written contract, this should/may specify the notice period.

If the contract is verbal, there may have been discussion/agreement at the time about notice.

If no notice period is specified, either written or verbal, then reasonable notice must be given.

'Reasonable notice' is not strictly defined in law, it is a matter of looking at previous case law which is what a judge would do. However a rough rule of thumb would be that if rent is paid weekly, a weeks notice would probobly be reasonable. If rent is paid monthly, a months notice would probobly be reasonable.

alyouska12

G_M wrote: »

this is not the case.

What you mean is there is no statutory period of notice.

However there is a contractual obligation on both sides to give notice.

If there is a written contract, this should/may specify the notice period.

If the contract is verbal, there may have been discussion/agreement at the time about notice.

If no notice period is specified, either written or verbal, then reasonable notice must be given.

'Reasonable notice' is not strictly defined in law, it is a matter of looking at previous case law which is what a judge would do. However a rough rule of thumb would be that if rent is paid weekly, a weeks notice would probobly be reasonable. If rent is paid monthly, a months notice would probobly be reasonable.

thank you all for the replies...this sounds like more of an accurate break down, i remember in the contract theres a 30 days notice but dont remember if theres a min stay period...he mentioned before its a 6 month contract...in any case he sent me a text saying this is a formal notice you have to leave on the 14th of apr ( i asked him to arrange with me an earlier date but he is insisting for me to stay till 14th) which is 3 month fro the date i moved..i can stay till then....if he lets me live in peace but he isnt letting me..

AdrianC

G_M - I didn't think contractual notice could override legal notice? If so, then just "reasonable" - and, in the case of an irretrievable breakdown of personalities, reasonable could be almost zero...

Alyouska - do you have any form of written agreement? If not, then you have a default tenancy (well, lodger agreement) which has no fixed period at all. He can, frankly, shove his 14th April where the sun don't shine. If it does come to taking him to court for your deposit back, then it's his word against yours on the notice or contract length, and it doesn't sound as if he's going to be the most credible...