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  • Johno100 wrote: »
    A London Borough by any chance?

    Yes, seems to be a nice little earner for councils round here
  • neilmcl
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    Minrich wrote: »
    It is an offence to block a driveway whether you want to get on or off your drive. The space to kept free is debatable depending on the drivers ability to drive. Getting anyone to enforce the offence is another matter.
    Care to share what the offence to block someone getting ON to a driverway is?
  • Minrich
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    Same as blocking someone getting off their drive .
  • sheramber
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    Traffic Management Act 2004 page 47

    https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/496987/operational-guidance.pdf

    Parking alongside dropped footways etc
    8.66
    The contravention of parking adjacent to a dropped footway etc applies where
    a vehicle parks on the carriageway next to a place where the footway, cycle
    track or verge has been lowered to the level of the carriageway (or where the
    carriageway has been raised to the level of the footway, cycle track or verge)
    to assist:

    pedestrians crossing the carriageway;

    cyclist
    s entering or leaving the carriageway; or

    vehicles entering or leaving the carriageway across the footway, cycle
    track or verge.
    8.67
    Parking alongside a drooped footway etc can cause considerable
    inconvenience.
    But it can also put vulnerable road users at greater risk of
    being involved in a road traffic accident. W here the footway, cycle track or
    verge has been lowered (or the carriageway raised) to facilitate access to a
    premises, parking adjacent to such a location can cause considerable
    inconvenience to vehicles trying to enter or leave the premises. The Highway
    Code advises drivers “DO NOT stop or park
    ... where the kerb has been
    lowered to help wheelchair users and powered mobility vehicles, in front of an
    entrance to a property or where you would obstruct cyclists’ use of cycle
    facilities ... except when forced to do so by stationary traffic.”

    8.68
    The contravention does not apply to exemptions specified in the TMA, such
    as the emergency services, alighting, unloading, building works, road works,
    and the
    like. Nor does it apply where a vehicle is parked outside residential
    premises with the occupier’s consent (but it does apply if that consent has
    been paid for) or where the driveway is shared. These exceptions suggest
    that authorities should not take enforcement action where a vehicle is parked
    outside residential premises unless the occupier has asked the enforcement
    authority to do so. Authorities will need to check that the individual making
    such a request is entitled to do so.
    8.69
    An authority that plans to use this power, should ensure that it is clear to a
    motorist the difference between a regular kerb and a dropped kerb (or a
    regular carriageway and a raised carriageway)
  • m0bov
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    Phone up council or their private parking contractor who will happily come and put a ticket on it. They will need to knock and confirm you do live there.
  • Having a quick read of the TMA 2004 (P47), it would seem to me to be more applicable to dropped kerbs for pedestrian or disabled access, rather than for residential driveways? Plus it is a guidance document?

    Great if it could be used to take action or prevent annoying barstewards from blocking your drive but I doubt it.

    Here in East Kent, the authorities tell me that no action can be taken unless the "offender" is blocking your vehicle from exiting the driveway "in an emergency"!!

    As I had to not only get permission for the dropped kerb, but also planning approval for the driveway, it cost me a small fortune. Considering that many others in the area do not bother with getting a dropped kerb, it makes you wonder if the time, effort and expense was worth it?

    Touch wood, I haven't yet had any problems but if I do, I think the unofficial remedies are the most likely route (pardon the pun):rotfl:
  • glentoran99
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    Having a quick read of the TMA 2004 (P47), it would seem to me to be more applicable to dropped kerbs for pedestrian or disabled access, rather than for residential driveways? Plus it is a guidance document?

    Great if it could be used to take action or prevent annoying barstewards from blocking your drive but I doubt it.

    Here in East Kent, the authorities tell me that no action can be taken unless the "offender" is blocking your vehicle from exiting the driveway "in an emergency"!!

    As I had to not only get permission for the dropped kerb, but also planning approval for the driveway, it cost me a small fortune. Considering that many others in the area do not bother with getting a dropped kerb, it makes you wonder if the time, effort and expense was worth it?

    Touch wood, I haven't yet had any problems but if I do, I think the unofficial remedies are the most likely route (pardon the pun):rotfl:


    vehicles entering or leaving the carriageway across the footway, cycle
    track or verge.
  • neilmcl
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    That is simply the legislation that MAY be used by councils to prevent someone parking alongside a dropped kerb. It is not the offence for reasonable obstruction of a vehicle entering the public highway, and as far as I'm aware there is no applicable offence to prevent someone from entering their own driveway.
  • Minrich
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    edited 23 February 2016 at 3:54PM
    As you will be aware the Highway under the RTA covers from boundary to boundary , fence to fence , hedge to hedge etc. The blocking of the drop kerb allowing access to the driveway is blocking a vehicles access over the path , which is still highway .... It matters not whether it is on or off , due to the Defined Highway under the act
  • Minrich
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    Having a quick read of the TMA 2004 (P47), it would seem to me to be more applicable to dropped kerbs for pedestrian or disabled access, rather than for residential driveways? Plus it is a guidance document?

    Great if it could be used to take action or prevent annoying barstewards from blocking your drive but I doubt it.

    Here in East Kent, the authorities tell me that no action can be taken unless the "offender" is blocking your vehicle from exiting the driveway "in an emergency"!!

    As I had to not only get permission for the dropped kerb, but also planning approval for the driveway, it cost me a small fortune. Considering that many others in the area do not bother with getting a dropped kerb, it makes you wonder if the time, effort and expense was worth it?

    Touch wood, I haven't yet had any problems but if I do, I think the unofficial remedies are the most likely route (pardon the pun):rotfl:

    One reason that people put drop kerbs in is so that when they sell their house they can state legally that there is off road parking , without the drop kerb they cannot. Adds a large premium in some places , up to £15k in many southern counties around London
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