SSE beating Martin today.

MSE_Dan_L

dannynolan wrote: »

Cut to the chase - It was so easy for me all by myself, just one of me, to beat a collective of 100,000 I wonder whether the collective deal has been awarded to the energy company that offers the best terms to Martin rather than the best terms to the 100,000 switchers.

Just saying...

Hi Dannynolan

Absolutely not. I've posted elsewhere on the forum highlighting that the collective switch auctions aren't based on financials - we don't make any more money on a switch to a collective tariff to any other switch.

The decision making for auction looks at a combination of pricing, customer service and operational capability to handle a significant volume of switches.

Across all the collective auctions, the winning tariffs were market leading based on average price across all regions. We highlight across the site that the tariffs can be beaten for certain usage types and in certain regions.

However looking at Energy Club users the British Gas tariff was the cheapest option for the majority of our members.

I hope this explanation helps clear things up for you.

tizerbelle

dannynolan wrote: »

Cut to the chase - It was so easy for me all by myself, just one of me, to beat a collective of 100,000 I wonder whether the collective deal has been awarded to the energy company that offers the best terms to Martin rather than the best terms to the 100,000 switchers.

Just saying...

Well for me, the SSE rates above work out over £100 a year more expensive than the MSE BG prices. I'm in the NW and nearer a 15:85 electric:gas ratio. With varying tariffs across regions, varying individual usage profiles, no single deal is going to be cheapest for everyone but that doesn't mean it's a con or there are dodgy goings on somewhere.

Cardew

dannynolan wrote: »

This is the SSE tariff I was quoted today by Daily Mail collective - a 12 month fix

electricity 0.1034200 per kwh
standing chg 0.2219100 per day

gas 0.0301400 per kwh
standing chg 0.2219100 per day

Greater London

Please note Danny Nolan had made a mistake on his figures and has now changed them - above are his original charges.

Well my prices on the MSE collective(Midlands) are considerably cheaper - the prices below include VAT:


Supplier
British Gas
(British Gas Trading Ltd)
British Gas
(British Gas Trading Ltd)
Tariff name
Collective Fix February 2017
Collective Fix February 2017
Tariff type
FIXED**
FIXED**
Payment method
Monthly Direct Debit¤
Monthly Direct Debit¤
Unit rate
Electricity 8.79p per kWh
gas 2.81p per kWh
Standing charge
Elect 18.90p per day
gas 18.90p per day
Tariff ends on
28 February 2017
28 February 2017
Price guaranteed until
28 February 2017
28 February 2017
Exit fees (if you switch supplier before the end date)
£30.00
£30.00
Discounts and additional charges
£15.00 annual discount when you have both gas and electricity with us‡‡
£15.00 annual discount when you have both gas and electricity with us‡‡

Electricity is the cheapest I have seen, gas can be beaten by a few companies; however this tariff is dual fuel only i.e. you cannot have just electricity.

Cardew

dannynolan wrote: »

Daily Mail collective switch with SSE is 12% cheaper for me than Martin's collective.

I am 65% gas 35% electricity. Which is roughly where Britain is.

I hope the 97,000 switchers have done their homework and haven't been sold a pup.

Sadly...




This is the SSE tariff I was quoted today by Daily Mail collective - a 12 month fix

electricity 0.1034200 per kwh
standing chg 0.2219100 per day

gas 0.0301400 per kwh
standing chg 0.2219100 per day

Greater London

Well unless Greater London prices on the MSE collective are far higher than the Midlands( and NW) - and this is not normally the case - there is no way that the SSE tariff can be cheaper. The BG has cheaper unit prices for both gas and electricity, also the DSC is cheaper for both gas and electricity. So for any consumption from 1kWh pa upwards the BG fix must be cheaper.


Perhaps you can post the figures you were given for the MSE BG fix that led you to conclude that the Daily Mail fix with SSE is 12% cheaper.


MSE Dan - have you got the BG fix charges for Greater London that you could post please

Cardew

MSE Dan - bump

basketcase

I'm currently switching from SSE via the Cheap Energy Club. If the projection is correct I should be about 40% better off.

And I'm in Scotland...

dannynolan

tizerbelle wrote: »

Well for me, the SSE rates above work out over £100 a year more expensive than the MSE BG prices. I'm in the NW and nearer a 15:85 electric:gas ratio. With varying tariffs across regions, varying individual usage profiles, no single deal is going to be cheapest for everyone but that doesn't mean it's a con or there are dodgy goings on somewhere.

so what are your tariffs then?

jcontest

The site doesn't even show SSE to me, but I have high electricity consumption. 8,900 kWh
Best quote on the site saves me about £80 less than mse and it doesn't list a £30 cashback so That's a £110 difference for the year.
Not sure if you can use other cash-back sites with energyhelpline so I cant say that the deals there cant get better, but for me at least the MSE site is still showing a better offer with BG.

When you guys compare also make sure that all the sites show your current tariff correctly, or for those sites that don't display it make sure they show "your currently paying" the same on all sites. I hate the sites that only focus on what you save and try to blank out what your going to actually spend (but that's found through most places so perhaps I should get over it).

dannynolan

These are the tariffs for my BG Martin collective switch = Greater London

electricity 0.0853700 per kwh
standing chg 0.1890000 per day

gas 0.0284500 per kwh
standing chg 0.1890000 per day

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This is the SSE tariff I was quoted today by Daily Mail collective - a 12 month fix

electricity 0.0941900 per kwh
standing chg 0.14790000 per day

gas 0.0232100 per kwh
standing chg 0.14790000 per day

Daily Mail SSE cheaper per day and much cheaper for gas, so for me 12% cheaper overall.

NB I posted the wrong tariffs (too high) for the Daily Mail Collective in my earlier post.

dannynolan

basketcase wrote: »

i'm currently switching from sse via the cheap energy club. If the projection is correct i should be about 40% better off.

And i'm in scotland...

40% !!!!!!!!!!!!!