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  • vivatifosi
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    It's amazing Sue, to think what a change there has been in youngest, since he changed school. He's finally getting the opportunities that he should have had all along. Which makes me happy and angry for you both, in equal measure.
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  • michaels
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    edited 16 May 2016 at 7:45AM
    Doozergirl wrote: »
    Erm, if you were on top of things, you might understand the utter !!!!!! that your kid is expected to know this year.

    The whole point of measuring teachers should be that the children shouldn't know that the teacher is being tested, and certainly shouldn't feel that they are the ones being tested.

    Learning to recite is not real learning or proper understanding. Your child is not being labelled.

    I don't think there's anything wrong with being on a certain table. I'd rather be taught in an appropriate group than not understand, or be bored.

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    In a private school where all the pupils are motivated to learn and classes are small enough for the teacher to teach all the pupils I am sure it is fine. Even at my DDa good secondary school where she has jot for into top sets there are other pupils who have their phones out and would rather disrupt than learn. As mentioned with teachers having to elicit not teach, who sits on your table can make a big difference to whether you are learning or mucking about.

    In terms of teachers all my kids seem to suffer from the big trend to teachers working part time having a minimum of 2 and often 3 teachers each week...

    Back to DS at age 7, I don't think it would have been a problem to concentrate on his knowing what a verb, noun, adverb and adjective are nor knowing the difference between a command and a statement and a question - of course he does know what they are but isn't secure with the names of them and the way the questions are structured you need to. A more experienced or better managed form teacher would have done more with this and would also have communicated better with parents so they could have helped.
    I think....
  • oldandhappy
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    ;)Its Whit Monday here today...took the cover of our little dip pool and the water is so clear with the over winter treatment we used..unlike when we moved here the water was like mmmm like yuk...we are now today seriously thinking of a heating system for it as last summer the water was so cold when we really wanted to use it..I am so adaptable I can actually swim in a dip pool;)so therefore heating it would be the way to go...going in search on the internet ...solar would be the way to go....the neighbours hardly blinked an eye when we put up our amatuer radio tower:eek:...so unlikely of any solar panel moans here....
  • silvercar
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    Apparently getting rid of one disruptive pupil increases the grades of the rest of the group. Putting one average ability pupil in a gifted and talented group increases the average pupils grades.
    (Obviously the average pupil can't be disruptive.)
    In terms of teachers all my kids seem to suffer from the big trend to teachers working part time having a minimum of 2 and often 3 teachers each week...

    The idea of having a refreshed teacher arriving in the classroom for the second part of the week should work. If one takes english lessons and the other maths/ science it could work well.
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  • SingleSue
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    michaels wrote: »
    In a private school where all the pupils are motivated to learn and classes are small enough for the teacher to teach all the pupils I am sure it is fine. Even at my DDa good secondary school where she has jot for into top sets there are other pupils who have their phones out and would rather disrupt than learn. As mentioned with teachers having to elicit not teach, who sits on your table can make a big difference to whether you are learning or mucking about.

    In terms of teachers all my kids seem to suffer from the big trend to teachers working part time having a minimum of 2 and often 3 teachers each week...

    Back to DS at age 7, I don't think it would have been a problem to concentrate on his knowing what a verb, noun, adverb and adjective are nor knowing the difference between a command and a statement and a question - of course he does know what they are but isn't secure with the names of them and the way the questions are structured you need to. A more experienced or better managed form teacher would have done more with this and would also have communicated better with parents so they could have helped.

    Youngest has two tutors for the one course, last year he had 3 tutors for the one course...seemed to work quite well for him and bearing in mind his avoidance of change, it didn't really bother him (not that he actually talks to them, last year one tutor wrote on his report that youngest seems to do well but he couldn't comment properly as he hadn't had a conversation with him due to youngest's unwillingness to have anything to do with him!). Obviously at high school, they have oodles of teachers spread across all the subjects.

    Re phones, youngest is allowed to have his phone out and music playing with the use of earphones, it allows him to concentrate on what he is doing and not be distracted/overwhelmed by other noises in the classroom, so they can be used for positive outcomes.

    Josh at uni is allowed the same thing for the same reason.

    For me, I couldn't do that, I have to have the normal noises and not music to be able to concentrate, when I have tried it, I have found myself writing the lyrics rather than what I wanted to write! :rotfl:

    Viva - Yes, it is amazing what a change it has made. He had the opportunity to show what he could do without them pre judging that he couldn't do it unlike the academy. It did throw them initially that they had a statemented student who had the ability though (no idea why, he needs support to learn and once support is there and his surroundings are right, he is comfortable enough to open the shutters, he can't be the only one).

    I always knew he was the brightest one out of the three (not that the other two are shoddy), unfortunately I always got the pity looks when I tried to tell the academy how bright he was, it just didn't compute with them and instead of being put in the higher classes where he could work, they put him in with the disruptive or other disabled ones where the noise levels were horrendous, the disruption constant and as a consequence, he struggled and shut down.

    I've found the college much more open to suggestions on how to make it work for him, they themselves have tried new things with him (the music playing - their suggestion) to make him feel more comfortable and it works. The shutters are well and truly open and he is finally showing what he is capable of.

    Still won't talk to the tutors though.....
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
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  • Pyxis
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    SingleSue , reading about having the music playing got me thinking.

    (I know, painful. :D)

    I'm just wondering what effect something like Mozart's music might have? It's supposed to be good for the brain. I must admit my driving improves when some baroque music comes on the radio. It's supposed to be due to all the interweaving music lines.

    Have you tried anything like that?
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  • SingleSue
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    I've tried all sorts Pyxis, it's just not for me although I will quite happily hum along to myself when writing or working although when driving, I just have to have music.
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
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  • Pyxis
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    SingleSue wrote: »
    I've tried all sorts Pyxis, it's just not for me although I will quite happily hum along to myself when writing or working although when driving, I just have to have music.

    I was wondering about the children, too?
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  • SingleSue
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    Oh they have all sorts of music playing, a real mix of styles from classical right through to heavy rock.
    We made it! All three boys have graduated, it's been hard work but it shows there is a possibility of a chance of normal (ish) life after a diagnosis (or two) of ASD. It's not been the easiest route but I am so glad I ignored everything and everyone and did my own therapies with them.
    Eldests' EDS diagnosis 4.5.10, mine 13.1.11 eekk - now having fun and games as a wheelchair user.
  • Pyxis
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    Yes.

    You see, my point was that I was wondering if Mozart would help their brain function?

    I'll see if I can find some research papers..............
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