Nice People Thread No. 15, a Cyber Summer

oldandhappy

back in the early 70's we chose this checked carpet...darkbrown light brown and cream was really lush the pile was so thick it went up the hallway up the straight stairs and along the upstairs hallway...seemed expensive at the time... just weeks of this carpet drove me mad...the fluff was all over the place and every day I was hovering just fluff of the three colours all mixed up...hey I had three toddlerwreakers as well so being a rather young person my tolerance with mess was zilch....the company removed it and I had a full refund and went for a really good speckled beige mix..was a safe happy changeover...best regards Dianne

zagubov

In the two boroughs we've lived with our kids the only tests that mattered were the 11+.

There was a bit of a ghastly Hunger Games feel to it.

Grateful I don't live in counties like Bucks. They've got a grim system. If you don't know what I'm talking about, don't look it up, it'll scare you.

Pyxis

silvercar wrote: »

4m width, so only one join, whichever way round.

Don't take any notice, Silvercar! Trust your carpet fitter - he's seen more carpets laid than you've had hot dinners - and go for it! Stripes and all!

If you are really unsure, get him to loose-lay it in various locations, so you can gauge the effect, before he cuts it to size.

Personally, I would not, repeat not, change the direction of the stripes, anywhere.

Trust the fitter! :A

silvercar

oldandhappy wrote: »

back in the early 70's we chose this checked carpet...darkbrown light brown and cream was really lush the pile was so thick it went up the hallway up the straight stairs and along the upstairs hallway...seemed expensive at the time... just weeks of this carpet drove me mad...the fluff was all over the place and every day I was hovering just fluff of the three colours all mixed up...hey I had three toddlerwreakers as well so being a rather young person my tolerance with mess was zilch....the company removed it and I had a full refund and went for a really good speckled beige mix..was a safe happy changeover...best regards Dianne

Carpet guy said the tighter the weave the better the quality and stairs should have loops high standing pile.

We had some fluffy carpet in the old house, was a nightmare to remove stains.

michaels

silvercar wrote: »

I don't think they do. Schools don't offer places based on securing level 5.

Schools may be judged on the percentage that reach targets. They may also be judged on "value added" - they compare the age 7 SATs with age 11 and see what value has been added. Pupils should move up 2 levels in 4 years. Judgement may be more league tables/ impress potential parents rather than money. Not convinced that people are that interested. Parents looking to move from state primary to private secondary or grammar schools focus on the school destination of existing pupils rather than SATs.

Don't think you should worry michaels, or feel that you have missed something.

I should have been more on top of things being aware that DS wasn't learning what he should have been. It is hard for pupils to overcome the label they have of being a level x and get put on certain tables etc....

michaels

Just watched about 70% of the last episode of Undercover on bbc1, having seen about half of the serries...and didn't understand the ending

Pyxis

michaels wrote: »

I should have been more on top of things being aware that DS wasn't learning what he should have been. It is hard for pupils to overcome the label they have of being a level x and get put on certain tables etc....

Isn't this the crux of the matter?
The fault of the school's poor teaching being placed, unfairly, on the heads of the pupils?
It may not be the actual intention of Sats, but that is the perceived outcome for the parents, and indirectly for the pupils.

I have no idea what methods of assessing teaching went on in the sixties, but there must have been some? What there were, I was oblivious to, and quite rightly so.
So why can't current pupils also be oblivious to the assessment of teachers?

Jeez!

vivatifosi

Australia would have won Eurovision under old voting system:

http://eurovisionworld.com/?esc=old-voting-system-australia-would-have-won-eurovision-2016

UK would also have done a little better (still not top 10, sorry). I have run the numbers and get the same results. The assumption that I've had to make, and that I think they would have made too, is that in the event of getting the same result (eg 12 from jury and 0 from public vs 0 from jury and 12 from public) that jury vote holds sway. This is based on the controversial outcome of the UK public giving 12 to Polish washerwomen, but jury giving 0, hence a score of 0 overall. I think that the person who wrote this has made the same assumption.

michaels

Pyxis wrote: »

Isn't this the crux of the matter?
The fault of the school's poor teaching being placed, unfairly, on the heads of the pupils?
It may not be the actual intention of Sats, but that is the perceived outcome for the parents, and indirectly for the pupils.

I have no idea what methods of assessing teaching went on in the sixties, but there must have been some? What there were, I was oblivious to, and quite rightly so.
So why can't current pupils also be oblivious to the assessment of teachers?

Jeez!

Or perhaps lots of pupils were simply poorly taught? When they got rid of SATS in Wales a few years later gcse results fell off a cliff

Still at least there was less stress for the pupils and teachers...

ivyleaf

We have the 11+ in this area, but these days, instead of having to "opt out" if you didn't want your child to take it, and everyone practising for it in school (which was how it worked when my children and even when my older grandson was in Year 6), you now have to "opt in", and no preparation is done in school at all!

ETA I mean that the "opting-in" and no preparation in school, is what happens in this borough now; I don't know about places like Bucks.