Is EU fiscal integration the only way forward?

Carl31

for the EU to work you need a single currency, but even then within zones you wouldnt get a balance, like the north / south divide in the UK

to truly work, all nations need to be economically balanced, same level of import and export, employment, taxation etc..

antrobus

danothy wrote: »

We could be, although it would probably be easier to bring the EU member states in line with each other first. I guess the same ideology of division that stands against the EU coming together would stand against a global union too. Such a shame.

I guess you must be the kind of person who buys Justin Bieber CDs just because everybody else does. After all being on the same page as everyone else is so desirable, ain't it?

danothy

CLAPTON wrote: »

you must long for the days of pax britannia : half the world in a global union

Says a lot about you that you assume someone who wants a global union must mean by imperialistic imposition. I prefer the concept of agreement rather than imposition when it comes to organisation.

antrobus wrote: »

I guess you must be the kind of person who buys Justin Bieber CDs just because everybody else does. After all being on the same page as everyone else is so desirable, ain't it?

You've made a number of guesses about me recently, none of which are particular accurate. I guess that your implicit suggestion is that people's individual choices require the same synchronisation as the act of organising the society in which they make those choices? Or are you just asserting that more than one artist can't be listed on the same page?

CLAPTON

danothy wrote: »

Says a lot about you that you assume someone who wants a global union must mean by imperialistic imposition. I prefer the concept of agreement rather than imposition when it comes to organisation.



You've made a number of guesses about me recently, none of which are particular accurate. I guess that your implicit suggestion is that people's individual choices require the same synchronisation as the act of organising the society in which they make those choices? Or are you just asserting that more than one artist can't be listed on the same page?

Forward looking progressive people, could observe that the ex brit empire is now largely democratic and so would provide a very good basis for a spontaneous coming together of like minded people.

michaels

danothy wrote: »

Yeah, because being on the same page as everyone else is so undesirable.

As I understand it the main point of the internet is that 'distance doesn't matter' so perhaps in an increasingly online world rather than trying to fit with countries that are often culturally quite different we should synchronise with similar cultural democracies in Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

danothy

michaels wrote: »

As I understand it the main point of the internet is that 'distance doesn't matter' so perhaps in an increasingly online world rather than trying to fit with countries that are often culturally quite different we should synchronise with similar cultural democracies in Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

You've presented it as an alternative, why couldn't we do both? I doubt we'll stop living physical lives any time soon.

antrobus

danothy wrote: »

...You've made a number of guesses about me recently, none of which are particular accurate. I guess that your implicit suggestion is that people's individual choices require the same synchronisation as the act of organising the society in which they make those choices?

Why do we have to pick the same method of synchronisation as someone else? Can't we have our own method if it suits us better?

danothy wrote: »

...Or are you just asserting that more than one artist can't be listed on the same page?

As far as I'm concerned the UK can reject EU fiscal union and yet still be on the same page as the rest of Europe. Perhaps it would be a different paragraph. I don't know. It was your metaphor. Don't blame me if it doesn't make any sense.

antrobus

danothy wrote: »

You've presented it as an alternative, why couldn't we do both? I doubt we'll stop living physical lives any time soon.

You could indeed do both. But whether you'd want would depend on the choices on offer. You could indeed for example, both stick your hand in the fire and drink a glass of water. But just because you could, doesn't mean that you should.

Graham_Devon

michaels wrote: »

As I understand it the main point of the internet is that 'distance doesn't matter' so perhaps in an increasingly online world rather than trying to fit with countries that are often culturally quite different we should synchronise with similar cultural democracies in Canada, Australia and New Zealand.

Eh up - you turning into an out voter?!

Thrugelmir

michaels wrote: »

I am surprised that such comments are not embargoed until after the UK referendum.....

The EU has it's own agenda. What the UK does or doesn't do makes no difference. The countries inside the Eurozone already have their own challenges to face.