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Notice given by tenants

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  • agrinnall
    agrinnall Posts: 23,344 Forumite
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    FBaby wrote: »
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    This has no logic. How could any tenant justify that the time and effort taken to enforce the penalty cost them 3 times their monthly rent?

    Seems logical to me, unlike your last sentence which makes no sense at all.
  • Pixie5740
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    We'll be here forever if we start playing "what if." What if one of the tenants was offered their dream job on the other side of the country? What if one of the tenants was made redundant and they want to downsize? What if the tenants wanted to move to a better school catchment area? You see?

    Even if the tenants had given the correct notice (another 5/6 days) then if they really didn't want viewings taking place then they could prevent and obstruct viewings if they really wanted to, they still could.

    The deposit penalty is logical. The penalty is imposed when a landlord doesn't comply with the law it has nothing to do with the justifying the effort involved in enforcing the penalty it's just that the party who does make the effort gets the money even if the effort involved isn't that great. If councils enforced the penalty they would receive the money but they don't, it's down to the tenant to do the enforcing so they receive the money.
  • Mardle
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    clivoclivo wrote: »
    Started on 1st dec 2014; It's monthly payments.

    I would have thought that in order for the tenants to leave on Feb 29th they should have handed in their notice by the end of January. Or am I missing something?
  • G_M
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    Mardle wrote: »
    I would have thought that in order for the tenants to leave on Feb 29th they should have handed in their notice by the end of January. Or am I missing something?
    Yup! Quite a lot.

    Post 16 above.
  • ognum
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    OP, it really is not worth the agrivation of enforcing the notice period. Just let them go.
  • FBaby
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    The penalty is imposed when a landlord doesn't comply with the law it has nothing to do with the justifying the effort involved in enforcing the penalty it's just that the party who does make the effort gets the money even if the effort involved isn't that great.

    Exactly, it is just 'the way it is'as written in the law, just as it is just 'the way it is' that landlords can demand rent payment as stipulated in law and in their contract. So why criticizing them for wanting the rules to be applied?
  • Pixie5740
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    FBaby wrote: »
    Exactly, it is just 'the way it is'as written in the law, just as it is just 'the way it is' that landlords can demand rent payment as stipulated in law and in their contract. So why criticizing them for wanting the rules to be applied?

    Several regular posters who also happen to be landlords have advised the OP just to let it go because it's not worth the aggravation. In the same way that just because tenants could sue for non-protection many choose not to because it's not worth the aggravation of taking someone to court. Just getting the deposit back is good enough.
  • G_M
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    Pixie5740 wrote: »
    Several regular posters who also happen to be landlords have advised the OP just to let it go because it's not worth the aggravation. In the same way that just because tenants could sue for non-protection many choose not to because it's not worth the aggravation of taking someone to court. Just getting the deposit back is good enough.
    It's not just that it's not worth the aggrevation.

    It's also that one can run a business (or in a tenant's case, live one's life) AND treat people with a little respect, understanding and consideration.

    Why cause conflict over a trifle?

    The law should be the final resort.

    Now, if the tenants had taken the pee throughout the tenancy (late payment every month, constant trivial call-outs/complaints, damage, disturbing the neighbours etc etc) then I might take the 'legal' route rather than the 'understanding' route.

    Indeed I have done just that and taken a tenant through court, but in this case....??
  • ognum
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    G_M wrote: »
    It's not just that it's not worth the aggrevation.

    It's also that one can run a business (or in a tenant's case, live one's life) AND treat people with a little respect, understanding and consideration.

    Why cause conflict over a trifle?

    The law should be the final resort.

    Now, if the tenants had taken the pee throughout the tenancy (late payment every month, constant trivial call-outs/complaints, damage, disturbing the neighbours etc etc) then I might take the 'legal' route rather than the 'understanding' route.

    Indeed I have done just that and taken a tenant through court, but in this case....??

    Well said, my thoughts are just this!
  • Mardle
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    G_M wrote: »
    Yup! Quite a lot.

    Post 16 above.

    *cough*
    * Forget calendar months.
    * I'll assume this is now a Statutory Periodic (if it is Contractual Periodic, ignore the following):
    * what date did the Fixed Term end - let's assume 2nd of month?
    * so tenancy periods are 3rd to 2nd
    * notice served on 5th Feb
    * so notice runs from 3rd March to 2nd March
    * tenancy ends on 2nd March
    * (of course the critical date is when fixed term ended)
    Did you mean 3rd March to 2nd April?
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