SA and claiming tax on professional subscriptions

daverave7

I am registered to complete Self Assessment, although I did not do any self employed work in 14/15, but would like to claim back tax on professional subscriptions. However I can't seem to see any section to input these details on the online Self Assessment form! Can anyone advise where I can find the relevant section?

Cheers

Savvy_Sue

I was told SA102 Box 19 in this thread.

Spivved1987

I am having the same problem. I have just been cut off after waiting half an hour on the HMRC helpline. My version of the online SA form doesn't seem to have box numbers so quoting Box xx doesn't help. Can anyone post a screenprint of where Professional Fees should be entered? I am not self-employed, these fees are not paid by my employer, and they are wholly and necessarily connected with my employment. Hopefully that will head off some follow-up questions.

Although it is not a large sum, it will take me into credit!

Savvy_Sue

It's expenses relating to employment. I'm afraid it's not my return, but once we knew what we were looking for it was easier to find!

Spivved1987

Ah, finally got through to HMRC. The solution is that these professional subs are completed in the'Income' section of an employment ie they are treating subs as a net off against income, which is wrong in accounting terms but hey ho.

Thanks for your help.

Darksparkle

Spivved1987 wrote: »

Ah, finally got through to HMRC. The solution is that these professional subs are completed in the'Income' section of an employment ie they are treating subs as a net off against income, which is wrong in accounting terms but hey ho.

Thanks for your help.

Theh should be entered under the "employment expenses" section, box 19 and Sue mentioned. The box is headed "professional fees and subscriptions"

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/419579/sa102-2015.pdf

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Spivved1987 wrote: »

Ah, finally got through to HMRC. The solution is that these professional subs are completed in the'Income' section of an employment ie they are treating subs as a net off against income, which is wrong in accounting terms but hey ho.

Thanks for your help.

I would be sceptical about this to say the least. I have never known any figure other than the P60 to be entered in the income from employment box. In fact, I have reconsidered - the advice is just wrong! The previous post is correct.

Savvy_Sue

Darksparkle wrote: »

Theh should be entered under the "employment expenses" section, box 19 and Sue mentioned. The box is headed "professional fees and subscriptions"

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/419579/sa102-2015.pdf

Well the box numbers show very clearly there, as I'm sure they did for DH, so not sure what is going wrong for spivved!

Jojocat

I'm confused about this - I pay approx £1000 in professional subscriptions per year. I get 20% allowance of the subscriptions back though my tax code, which means I pay a bit less tax. This adds approx £200 to my yearly salary.
The confusion lies with child tax credits. They get my salary from my employer - salary after pension etc taken off. But tax credits guys won't let me deduct the £1000 in subscriptions because they say 'you get that back in your tax code'.
Is this correct? When I fill out my tax credits form, should my salary not be - documented salary + £200 (extra I get through tax code) - £1000 (subscriptions)?

Any advice would be appreciated.

anselld

Jojocat wrote: »

I'm confused about this - I pay approx £1000 in professional subscriptions per year. I get 20% allowance of the subscriptions back though my tax code, which means I pay a bit less tax. This adds approx £200 to my yearly salary.
The confusion lies with child tax credits. They get my salary from my employer - salary after pension etc taken off. But tax credits guys won't let me deduct the £1000 in subscriptions because they say 'you get that back in your tax code'.
Is this correct? When I fill out my tax credits form, should my salary not be - documented salary + £200 (extra I get through tax code) - £1000 (subscriptions)?

Any advice would be appreciated.

Salary - expenses (nothing to do with tax code) ...
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/tax-credits-working-out-income

Not sure how "the guys don't let you". Do you not fill in a form yourself?

Dazed_and_confused

Jojocat

You might get more joy on the Benefits and Tax Credits board but it does like you're mainly correct.

Firstly though the subscriptions have no impact whatsoever on your salary. The tax relief you get means your take home pay could be £200 more but this is different to your salary.

Anyhow have a look at the TC600 guidance notes on gov.uk which clearly state deductions can include,

Tax-deductible payments you have made and have not been paid back for. For example, fees to professional bodies,
agency fees, indemnity insurance and allowable union subscriptions/fees

You may be overcomplicating things for the tax credits people?